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136. As you said, a twofer.

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 09:22 AM

Aug 2015

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Sanders and BLM present an irresistible target for RW dirty-tricks. Set them against each other, and eliminate two major grassroots opposition movements at the same time. Brilliant, but obvious.

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If I might get your attention [View all] nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 OP

how will we ever show our gratitude? Kali Aug 2015 #1

Pat yourself in the back nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #5

cool! Kali Aug 2015 #7

You are a collection of 1 and 0s as far as I am concerned nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #10

Pathetic n/t malaise Aug 2015 #25

Condescension seems to be the word of the day, do you have talking point meetings? I had it thrown A Simple Game Aug 2015 #35

;:o/ 1monster Aug 2015 #79

let me ask you something Kali Aug 2015 #104

I didn't see the OP as insulting. If you did, you should have 1monster Aug 2015 #108

For the record, I have never done anything to Kali in my life nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #110

"for the record" NOBODY has accused you of "doing anything" to me Kali Aug 2015 #115

Yes, you do post good things from time to time nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #118

Put her on ignore, don't let people like that drive you away. Hun Joro Aug 2015 #179

No, ignore does not work nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #181

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #202

uh, I did point it out Kali Aug 2015 #111

One of you is being classy, one of you is not. hueymahl Aug 2015 #157

Eye of the beholder and all. Team Kali!!! PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #159

It was not nice, but IMO it's the truth Martin Eden Aug 2015 #153

Thanks, that was the point nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #154

Kudos to you for posting it. I love brainfood - I for one am grateful. Tommymac Aug 2015 #161

I'm grateful as well, and thank you again for your comprehensive OP! haikugal Aug 2015 #177

Is the word "Incoherent"? PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #61

Forever gone ... Trajan Aug 2015 #103

Nadin, thanks for this and I'm happy to report that we've been busy here doing research... haikugal Aug 2015 #2

I know, I know people here did nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #6

Thank you for 2naSalit Aug 2015 #37

Some of us have been around, some of us, apparently not nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #44

So true... 2naSalit Aug 2015 #55

Thanks for all you do. Please... never hesitate to post here. You are desperately needed. BigBearJohn Aug 2015 #63

As you said, a twofer. leveymg Aug 2015 #136

he didn't fall into the trap, but now pictures of bbgrunt Aug 2015 #34

This you can recover from nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #46

Sun Tzu nailed it many many years ago: Tommymac Aug 2015 #162

Ah the master nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #163

Thanks for the ref; I read Lao Tze works in my youth in the 70's yet somehow he's slipped my mind Tommymac Aug 2015 #164

Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #165

That's been the spin from Clinton supporters on DU & GOP comments elsewhere. Divernan Aug 2015 #47

It hasn't hurt him at all. People are not as stupid as those who sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #69

yes, I am encouraged by the positive support he has gotten bbgrunt Aug 2015 #91

People are smart, they have instincts about things. And those who expressed sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #98

The NRN moderator got a lot of free publicity Babel_17 Aug 2015 #133

Yes, it did take a hit. It still is. He was surprised at the backlash I guess. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #138

Bernie has been an activist since god was a boy. sarge43 Aug 2015 #123

Ha! Yeah, this ain't his first rodeo. nt valerief Aug 2015 #203

This. People marvel at his restraint Babel_17 Aug 2015 #127

Very good Babel_17....thanks! haikugal Aug 2015 #178

He also shook people's hands for 15 minutes Generic Other Aug 2015 #221

I doubt that Hillary supporters appreciate the way many here have been blaming Hillary pnwmom Aug 2015 #85

It smelled of dirty tricks nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #89

I agree. It just isn't like her at all. And I'm sure the dirty tricks will continue. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #90

That they will and the HRC who are angry about all this nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #97

I've been saying all along that the only reason she's been avoiding this pnwmom Aug 2015 #100

Correct, they are just less obvious nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #101

Indeed kenfrequed Aug 2015 #169

You too old? fleabiscuit Aug 2015 #230

not that old, but paid attention in graduate school nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #231

That sounds like a much more reasonable decision than picking the #1 party school. fleabiscuit Aug 2015 #233

Oh give them some time nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #234

It just so happens we made popcorn tonight. :-) fleabiscuit Aug 2015 #235

I 100% agree. JoeyT Aug 2015 #209

No coincindence this was done on a weekend to let fester. glinda Aug 2015 #86

His future rallies should have strong enough stage security to prevent anyone from tblue37 Aug 2015 #152

It wasn't "his" rally. He was asked to speak there, but passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #194

Any rally where he speaks is "his" at this point. The crowds are there because of HIM. pnwmom Aug 2015 #210

The crowds were there not just because of him nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #211

Yeah, but I live here and saw the local publicity. He was by far the person attracting most of pnwmom Aug 2015 #219

Ah, so he was headlning nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #220

He was the keynoter, and got lots of publicity. pnwmom Aug 2015 #225

Right now watching the events in Ferguson nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #226

Yup. His crowds are amazing. At least at this event pnwmom Aug 2015 #227

Because of Ferguson... nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #228

... pnwmom Aug 2015 #229

Some pull the wool over their own eyes. zeemike Aug 2015 #51

Yes zeemike that's exactly what they believe. haikugal Aug 2015 #83

Agent Provocateur Infiltrators billhicks76 Aug 2015 #99

+1..... n/t annabanana Aug 2015 #126

It's a mess with a good conclusion Hydra Aug 2015 #3

There are always folks who smell rats nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #8

Likely because there are always rats. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2015 #27

Sounds about right. TreasonousBastard Aug 2015 #4

K&R! G_j Aug 2015 #9

You are the best, Nadin! Aerows Aug 2015 #11

Call it what it is, a dirty trick nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #15

+1,000 malaise Aug 2015 #26

+2 bobthedrummer Aug 2015 #146

+1 Octafish Aug 2015 #140

Thanks for this. hifiguy Aug 2015 #12

I just mentioned the year nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #13

thanks, nadin. this has been a hard weekend. roguevalley Aug 2015 #18

That was when those guys got their start starroute Aug 2015 #67

And a few others too nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #70

Who actually is behind it, though? Atwater and Nixon are long gone. merrily Aug 2015 #131

Really? That’s interesting. fleabiscuit Aug 2015 #236

Yes, Atwater and Nixon are really long gone. That's all my post said. Glad you found it interesting merrily Aug 2015 #237

But his students are still kicking around nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #241

It smelled funny to me too, Ilsa Aug 2015 #14

That was extremely rude and immature. WDIM Aug 2015 #16

Dirty tricks have not one thing to do with maturity nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #17

They were used notadmblnd Aug 2015 #42

Oh I am open to a third and even fourth consequence by the way nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #48

I was thinking destroy BLM, smear Sanders and Blame HRC notadmblnd Aug 2015 #53

Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #56

Hmm kenfrequed Aug 2015 #148

We have a winner! glinda Aug 2015 #88

Twofers are the sig for Republicans. They have think tanks that do this with big glinda Aug 2015 #87

And they would love to milk it but Bernie told them to malaise Aug 2015 #19

If this had worked as intended nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #20

You can if you have their paycheck. glinda Aug 2015 #92

I don't know if it's even working: the condemnation's been quite universal except for some online MisterP Aug 2015 #21

I agree with you, I do not think it has worked nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #30

BINGO the manufactured moment was to be those poor black women dragged away in chains. Giving Vincardog Aug 2015 #41

It had quite the opposite effect - glad it 840high Aug 2015 #45

Interesting, the whole scene raises quite a few questions... AuntPatsy Aug 2015 #22

If they were really interested in making a statement, jalan48 Aug 2015 #23

They got 4.5 minutes of silence actually nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #28

I did not know this. So why did it escalate after the silence? jalan48 Aug 2015 #31

Because they did not want to surrender the stage nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #33

Thank you for the explanation. jalan48 Aug 2015 #39

Lots of us have seen this and have been pointing it out vociferously. PatrickforO Aug 2015 #24

Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #29

Yes rusty quoin Aug 2015 #40

Yep. TDale313 Aug 2015 #57

Bingo!! haikugal Aug 2015 #102

Yep. And there will be more to come. azmom Aug 2015 #147

Absolutely! Auggie Aug 2015 #151

Hammer meet nail! n/t Aerows Aug 2015 #206

The other side knows the left will predictably, and routinely, do itself in.... villager Aug 2015 #32

It is the base of both parties nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #36

Nice post, thanks for your insight. It's nice to know others understand what is going on. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2015 #38

"Editors"? Facebook? "Change.org"? Sorry. George II Aug 2015 #43

Huh? n/t malaise Aug 2015 #49

Oh, "huh" is, believe me, the proper response here. djean111 Aug 2015 #122

Nailed it malaise Aug 2015 #124

Yep ...a little investigation earlier today and I came up with this... L0oniX Aug 2015 #50

Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #52

Thank you for your report, Gigabear Aug 2015 #54

I am not speaking on their behalf nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #58

Sorry I misunderstood, I assumed that was the "we" that you refer to in your post. Gigabear Aug 2015 #60

Editors will look for conflict nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #64

you run a paper? I thought RSD was a blog demtenjeep Aug 2015 #243

Wonderful personal attack nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #244

huh? demtenjeep Aug 2015 #245

thanks for this. nt restorefreedom Aug 2015 #59

Well I'll be damned tkmorris Aug 2015 #62

They Under Estimate Senator Sanders tazkcmo Aug 2015 #65

Thank you for this post. n/t cheapdate Aug 2015 #66

More lectures and disquisitions from the "allies" alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #68

If you wish to take this as a "lecture" fine by me nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #73

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #77

I have none on ignore nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #80

Heh heh heh alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #93

and ..... do engage in personal attacks, how mature of you nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #95

Thank you for posting! Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #71

So let me ask you a question, because the tape has an odd angle nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #74

I thought it looked "orchestrated" and fishy Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #76

As I said, the angle was not good nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #82

Thanks Nadin, for a sane voice, however sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #72

That was far from the issue of this OP nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #75

I agree with you. Lifelong Protester Aug 2015 #78

A couple of observations. There may be some Republicans who are itching to get a shot at totodeinhere Aug 2015 #81

Correct nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #84

Decentralization Babel_17 Aug 2015 #132

The downside, and movements will have to deal with this sooner or later is... nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #156

That Makes Sense Leith Aug 2015 #94

Correct, and this is meant to splinter the party nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #96

Doubtful Nadin... AOR Aug 2015 #105

You have many factions trust me nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #107

The Marissa Johnson in the article is the same woman... AOR Aug 2015 #112

You really do not understand how dirty tricks are done nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #113

There is enough to question the effectiveness of tactics... AOR Aug 2015 #114

So Watergate never happened? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #119

You should delete the OP... AOR Aug 2015 #180

Since I am not associated with the Sanders campaign you should can that talking point nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #182

Stop with the nonsense... AOR Aug 2015 #190

Lovely personal insults now nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #191

Personal insults ? AOR Aug 2015 #192

Alas I did nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #193

Lol Nadin... AOR Aug 2015 #195

don't worry, you just asked a question that might have a different answer demtenjeep Aug 2015 #232

The best theory (in the scientific sense) is the one that explains ALL of the evidence. Beartracks Aug 2015 #106

Same principle as "follow the money" Martin Eden Aug 2015 #155

That the Republicans' Dirty Tricks Team were behind Seattle was one scenario that I had considered emsimon33 Aug 2015 #109

Wrap that flag ... wrap it high & wide!! CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #116

Thanks, Nadin. I smelled a rat with this whole... tex-wyo-dem Aug 2015 #117

It comes down to this nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #120

Ah...makes sense. Thx Nadin! nt tex-wyo-dem Aug 2015 #223

Google this: COINTELPRO. Google: Ratfucking. Google: Nixon + Dirty Tricks. Google: Tricky Dick. Hekate Aug 2015 #168

I was too busy with this when I did my answer nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #170

You know what is fascinating - whose supporters were pretty damned disappointed that djean111 Aug 2015 #121

Divide and conquer. Guess who wins. Alkene Aug 2015 #125

I think we're political junkies so we look for patterns that aren't necessarily there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #128

The Law of Parsimony is a useful tool, however... Alkene Aug 2015 #134

Self absorbed youth who don't think their actions through?! Positrons Aug 2015 #129

These are far from self absorbed youth nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #167

100% SPOT ON Locrian Aug 2015 #130

"They are desperate to run against HRC" On the Road Aug 2015 #135

Good thread, Nadin... CanSocDem Aug 2015 #137

It sooooooo smells like a GOP dirty trick. Any intelligent PoC activist wouldn't prevent valerief Aug 2015 #139

A BLM activist took to the stage before Sanders did nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #149

We already have evidence that the two ladies that shouted down Bernie in Seattle have little to do 4lbs Aug 2015 #141

Um, she said she had a Palin button on her backpack... when she was 16 years old. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #142

You're conflating two events. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #144

The second woman was at NN 15 nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #150

She embezzled from her non-profit employer. No school to prison pipeline for that one. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #171

Still, there are many things here that are going on nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #172

Once again, thank you Nadin. Paka Aug 2015 #143

I was too young for 1972. My birth was a decade later. Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #145

I was in college during Watergate and this episode really evokes deja vu carolinayellowdog Aug 2015 #183

Alas that is what happened with the watergate break in nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #185

I've already read articles where Republican voters are highly motivated to vote against Hillary.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #158

Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #160

Sanders will fill his cabinet with people even more liberal and progressive than Obama.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #175

That is the other reason why it has the feel of 1932 nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #176

FDR went to the American People and told them to give him the congress he needed.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #187

That will be a nice little comparison for historians to be honest nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #189

Let me add this to all your thinking caps nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #166

She's no black lesbian .... She's pure RWNutter...who supported Palin... haikugal Aug 2015 #188

She may also view Clinton as religious, resisting gay marriage cprise Aug 2015 #196

there is a certain level of antisemitism, intended or not nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #198

Her comment about switching suggests Dems are grooming her. /eom cprise Aug 2015 #200

It was not about parties though nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #207

Soros is backing Hillary and now spends millions on BLM groups cprise Aug 2015 #212

I personally doubt this has a thing to do wiht HRC nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #214

This ain't the 70s. The Dem establishment is to the right of 70s Repubs. cprise Aug 2015 #215

And soros has given money to pro democracy groups all over the world nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #216

And the scheduling of the debates is "fair" cprise Aug 2015 #217

And the OP has none to do with the debates nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #218

"seeing how you all are getting played by pros at this business" ieoeja Aug 2015 #173

you got a point on the larger scheme nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #174

Nadin, you have such profound insight and instinct! Bravo! Thom Hartmann went over the Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #184

k & r & thanks! you rock & Bernie rocks! wildbilln864 Aug 2015 #186

k & r & thanks! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2015 #197

Another conspiracy thesis with no evidence. kwassa Aug 2015 #199

Yeah, because activists *always* attack their advocates. valerief Aug 2015 #204

and the evidence of the conspiracy???? kwassa Aug 2015 #222

I was going to ignore you nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #224

Thanks. This idea that "if there isn't a link, it isn't real" reminds me of "if it's not recorded, valerief Aug 2015 #238

Or... Some people are blinded by hate / partisanship nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #239

Ha! The irony of "American Exceptionalism." nt valerief Aug 2015 #240

That my friend, is a HELL of a question Number23 Aug 2015 #242

Thank you ma'am. chknltl Aug 2015 #201

You welcome nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #208

Mind... blown. You put the icing on the cake. Blue State Bandit Aug 2015 #205

A "TRUTH" K&R! KoKo Aug 2015 #213