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In reply to the discussion: What is a Democratic Socialist? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)16. That's why the Right listened to Lewis Powell.
They were sore afraid the USA would become like Sweden or Norway, they actually spent some money.
Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy
The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.
John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.
Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.
This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.
SOURCE: http://tucradio.org/new.html
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Never has worked...never will...no matter WHO tries to implement that system.nt
clarice
Aug 2015
#15
Excellent post! I have run into right wing trolls on this site who understand so little
PatrickforO
Aug 2015
#3
I knew that! We're definitely cool. But when the general election comes around and
PatrickforO
Aug 2015
#37
"... combines oligarchy with chest-pounding nationalism." Sounds like we have a little bit of
Stardust
Aug 2015
#58
The answer is, because that is an incorrect definition. The word Socialism in the definition isnt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#13
"Democratic Socialists are anti-Capitalist and would seek to do away with Capitalism"
brooklynite
Aug 2015
#17
Is that what you call me having links to back me up? No wonder you are so confused! nt
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#47
Better than helping communist dictatorships like the Koch family did with Stalin!
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#60
The OP is confusing Social Democracy with Democratic Socialism. Democratic Socialists would agree
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#14
In a Boolean situation, what would you have him do, caucus with the GOP or vote with them?
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#62
Simple, you tried to make a judgement based on who he caucuses with and votes with.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#69
That is an incorrect definition. The Actual Democratic Socialists of America describe themselves
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#11
They believe in working within capitalism AND within the Democratic Party. See Reply 27.
merrily
Aug 2015
#29
As far as it will take them, sure. But they are also clearly against Capitalism and for Socialism.
stevenleser
Aug 2015
#49
I'm always puzzled when I read that about Americans fearing becoming like Norway or
Stardust
Aug 2015
#59
You are most welcome. Carey explains how Capital rose to defend itself with a bodyguard of lies.
Octafish
Aug 2015
#61
It doesn't matter what the actual Def is: Socialism is defined by those who practice it.
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#19
Sure, Definitions don't matter, only stuff people pull out of their ears matters.
merrily
Aug 2015
#22
I am Dem I could not vote for socialist. Sanders should not be in the Dem party
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#36
He's not a Socialist, so no worries. See Reply 27 and the threads linked in that post.
merrily
Aug 2015
#38
I watch this man career for about 25 years: He refused to join the Dem for years
lewebley3
Aug 2015
#40
You think Dean (former Gov of Vermont and former DNC head) and Schumer didn't also watch his career?
merrily
Aug 2015
#41
Yes, this is the mentality you see down there in many cases. Time for an edumacation!!!
cascadiance
Aug 2015
#64
THANK YOU!!!! It is a shame that we live in the only western democracy where it is necessary
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2015
#65