You've made a great many sweeping allegations about law enforcement generally (Reply #134)

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Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:33 PM

branford (4,462 posts)

134. You've made a great many sweeping allegations about law enforcement generally

and most of the 900,000+ law enforcement officers in this country.

I would be most interested reviewing the actual studies or primary data that support your conclusions? Given their exceptionally broad and pervasive nature, citations should be readily available, and remember that the plural of anecdotes is not necessarily data.

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When is this killing of police officers going to end !!!!!!!!!!?????????nt [View all]	clarice	Sep 2015	OP
When cops start going to jail for killing people?	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Sep 2015	#1
What would your best guess be? nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#18
That was my question as well. Why are you playing coy? Are you dismayed more by one than the other?	Ed Suspicious	Sep 2015	#62
bats eyes coyly.... Huh?	clarice	Sep 2015	#65
Oh you're really clever. I don't have time for this. Enjoy your thread.	Ed Suspicious	Sep 2015	#68
I AM...... Glad that you enjoyed it too. peace. out. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#77
So you are confirming that the latest cop killings were	whathehell	Sep 2015	#92
"The latest cop killings"...?	Stellar	Sep 2015	#166
IMO not all cops are bad. I think they need to get rid of bad apples, top to bottom, but	RKP5637	Sep 2015	#2
My only complaint about the good cops is	TexasProgresive	Sep 2015	#5
Yes, that does seem to happen. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#17
Did you ever consider that if that "does seem to happen"	whathehell	Sep 2015	#69
Also, sometimes, I think the superiors are as bad as the bad cops, so the good cops get caught	RKP5637	Sep 2015	#20
The thin blue line is toxic.	Gormy Cuss	Sep 2015	#103
There are over 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the USA	branford	Sep 2015	#28
Exactly!!! n/t	RKP5637	Sep 2015	#29
Hot Damn !!!!!! Another intelligent response. Thanks Bran (no sarcasm)	clarice	Sep 2015	#38
I do not tolerate broad and unflattering generalizations and stereotyping of large diverse groups,	branford	Sep 2015	#41
Goodness ...... you ARE a smart cookie. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#44
Noble cause corruption is very common though	JonLP24	Sep 2015	#48
Replace policeman with politician, and you're right on the money. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#61
All you've done is provide a lengthy explanation of why some officers	branford	Sep 2015	#72
The problem is that these bad apples carry guns and the authority inherent in the badge, so when	Ed Suspicious	Sep 2015	#66
So do the criminals....but no badge....what standard should they be held to?. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#80
I guess that standard imposed by law, but they're criminals, so they seem to	Ed Suspicious	Sep 2015	#90
Gladly....	clarice	Sep 2015	#96
Absolutely nothing I wrote implied that corruption or incompetence should not be addressed,	branford	Sep 2015	#93
how many of those 900,000 have turned in one of their own for punching/kick/faking a 'traffic stop'?	Sunlei	Sep 2015	#118
Actually it happens more often than not and usually goes under-reported...	Historic NY	Sep 2015	#127
That's like asking why moderate Muslims don't stop terrorist attacks	branford	Sep 2015	#133
Our police and the entire criminal Justice system have a long way to go to dig out of the hole.	Sunlei	Sep 2015	#135
That not really correct.	branford	Sep 2015	#139
We have a right to observe our gov employees at work, federal and local.	Sunlei	Sep 2015	#140
Well said! n/t	justhanginon	Sep 2015	#136
When this country isn't saturated with unregistered guns nt	geek tragedy	Sep 2015	#3
How would gun registration help?	Snobblevitch	Sep 2015	#32
guns would be circulated a lot less carelessly.	geek tragedy	Sep 2015	#37
I'm in favor of UBCs,	Snobblevitch	Sep 2015	#121
Snob...Don't even try....you're butting your head against a steel post. lo.l nt.	clarice	Sep 2015	#39
Having less than 320 million guns around would indeed help a lot.	Fred Sanders	Sep 2015	#101
When cops stop shooting each other,,maybe	marym625	Sep 2015	#4
How so? nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#12
Did the Cliven Bundy gang strike again?	RandiFan1290	Sep 2015	#6
Preliminary 2015 Law Enforcement Officer Fatalities data	Make7	Sep 2015	#7
Good find. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#15
These statistics also include canine officers.	herding cats	Sep 2015	#25
Hmm seatbelt use is a problem among officers	nadinbrzezinski	Sep 2015	#47
According to FBI statistics ...	surrealAmerican	Sep 2015	#8
When scumbags stop being scumbags...	ileus	Sep 2015	#9
correct answer. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#16
So all cops deserve to be killed because some are scumbags?	whathehell	Sep 2015	#124
No....scumbags being the people that shoot our LEO's.	ileus	Sep 2015	#146
Got it. n/t	whathehell	Sep 2015	#157
Is this supposed to be	Proud Liberal Dem	Sep 2015	#10
Why would you think that ? nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#13
Is there an epidemic of police officer killings I am unaware of?	Proud Liberal Dem	Sep 2015	#26
Yes, it seems so. Or maybe it's just my perception....you see	clarice	Sep 2015	#35
Annnndd, it seems your perception is wrong.	truebluegreen	Sep 2015	#129
There's been two in the last ten days..	whathehell	Sep 2015	#159
It's perfectly liberal to be anti-murder	Bucky	Sep 2015	#52
I just thought that OP was possibly mocking Fox	Proud Liberal Dem	Sep 2015	#54
This guy gets it. Do you, Clarice?	Ed Suspicious	Sep 2015	#95
No one here thinks they should be shot?	branford	Sep 2015	#107
Sounds like some are gloating about it...Sick, ugly stuff.	whathehell	Sep 2015	#158
"The highest rate increase of (occupational) casualty occurred in private construction."	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#11
Very interesting. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#14
When are these on the job deaths of Lumberjacks going to end?!?	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#19
when more spotted owls are born	lame54	Sep 2015	#31
Wait, it's safer to be a cop than an electrical power line installer?	louis-t	Sep 2015	#42
Having worked in construction for many years,	padfun	Sep 2015	#97
Yeah	TeddyR	Sep 2015	#111
So? Be offended.	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#143
Um, when their deaths are caused by murder, maybe?	whathehell	Sep 2015	#160
This message was self-deleted by its author	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#161
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Why the quotes around your misspelling there, Skippy?	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#163
IIt was YOUR misspelling -- I just wanted to quote you exactly!	whathehell	Sep 2015	#164
Check it again, scooter.	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#165
LOL	whathehell	Sep 2015	#168
This message was self-deleted by its author	Go Vols	Sep 2015	#21
Unbelievable. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#45
I'll ask one of the McKinney officers at the next pool party.	LanternWaste	Sep 2015	#22
Too all concerned....don't be fooled. Lanternwaste also posts as Creekdog and KCR. FYI. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#49
If you feel better about yourself by alleging so	LanternWaste	Sep 2015	#55
It's repeat subject line guy! nt	Logical	Sep 2015	#74
Your irrelevance is consistent.	LanternWaste	Sep 2015	#78
And my stalker! nt	Logical	Sep 2015	#81
Yet who responded to whom?	LanternWaste	Sep 2015	#88
LOL. Your slip is showing.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#71
Slip this. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#73
Slip what clarice?	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#82
Freudian slip, maybe?	LanternWaste	Sep 2015	#75
Funniest post on DU today.	Gormy Cuss	Sep 2015	#108
He does?	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#120
That really pisses me off	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#123
Sleep it off	RandiFan1290	Sep 2015	#138
I heard that Obama changed "McKinney officers" to "Denali officers."	Orrex	Sep 2015	#167
This message was self-deleted by its author	LiberalArkie	Sep 2015	#23
Don't know what your point is, looks like gun deaths have gone down.	Kingofalldems	Sep 2015	#24
This message was self-deleted by its author	LiberalArkie	Sep 2015	#110
Where did I say that?	Kingofalldems	Sep 2015	#113
Shameful. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#50
So your opinion is that it's payback? Wow.	whathehell	Sep 2015	#119
Never? Cops get killed on the job. Since the days of the first LEO.	Rex	Sep 2015	#27
are you counting suicides?	lame54	Sep 2015	#30
Sounds as if you've fallen victim to the rightwing trope? Officer killings are down. n/t	Tarheel_Dem	Sep 2015	#33
Shame on you for politicizing such a serious issue. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#46
Funny, I thought the same thing of you. Why not ask the killers? Or do you think they post at DU?	Tarheel_Dem	Sep 2015	#117
This won't answer your question; but, I ...	1StrongBlackMan	Sep 2015	#34
Thank goodness !!!! An intelligent response. Appreciate it. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#36
To further my thought ...	1StrongBlackMan	Sep 2015	#40
I think that they do have a review process through Internal Affairs.......	clarice	Sep 2015	#43
One thing about this "vast majority of officers" that isn't mentioned.	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#56
What a sweeping, stupid generalization. If you are a Liberal, you don't stereotype. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#59
Bullshit.	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#84
What other groups are you comfortable in stereotyping? just curious. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#86
Certain DU posters, for one. n/t	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#102
IRS workers?	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#147
"The idea that most cops are good is nonsense because if it was true, there would be no bad cops."	Snobblevitch	Sep 2015	#141
Wow	TeddyR	Sep 2015	#114
Define "dangerous"	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#125
You've made a great many sweeping allegations about law enforcement generally	branford	Sep 2015	#134
Ahhhhh yes....those 900,000+ valiant boys in blue.	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#145
You are free to disagree with my purported "perceptions" (i.e., not stereotyping).	branford	Sep 2015	#148
Go ahead and wait.	A HERETIC I AM	Sep 2015	#150
thank you	Bucky	Sep 2015	#53
+1	treestar	Sep 2015	#169
probably will get worse as our society has imprisoned so many millions & destroyed so many families.	Sunlei	Sep 2015	#51
I would add that the criminals have to change also. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#58
what criminals? Of course people should know it's not right to hurt or kill anyone. It is a crime.	Sunlei	Sep 2015	#115
Killings of Police Officers is Way Down Under Obama	Z_California	Sep 2015	#57
When the IRS starts kissing your ass, I guess.	REP	Sep 2015	#60
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So why are you here? Ran out of cool stories?	REP	Sep 2015	#64
Just to piss you off. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#67
Something else you fail at. Like spelling. Or cool stories.	REP	Sep 2015	#70
You are dismissed. Go do your homework. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#76
You're not very good at this, are you.	REP	Sep 2015	#79
Good enough so that everyone else here is laughing at you. My work here is done. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#85
Won't get better on either side - police or "civilian" - until we do something about gunz. eom	Hoyt	Sep 2015	#83
Agreed...especially getting them out of the criminals hands.nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#91
Some of these responses are contemptible.	tymorial	Sep 2015	#87
Bravo. nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#89
I would hope your post is not alerted on, much less hidden. Too many shooting period in our country.	Hoyt	Sep 2015	#100
Thank you +100	840high	Sep 2015	#144
Post removed	Post removed	Sep 2015	#94
Thank you for your thoughtfulness. Please confine your vitriol to the subject at hand.nt	clarice	Sep 2015	#98
Vitriol, that's such a big word for you! Nice job!	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#105
...	PETRUS	Sep 2015	#172
Can you please explain the non-thinking that led you to say that Lanternwaste uses my account?	CreekDog	Sep 2015	#122
Looks like republican opinions to me.	Kingofalldems	Sep 2015	#99
And trolling.	Starry Messenger	Sep 2015	#109
And this person complained of being looked down on because of his "bright, optimistic attitude"	betsuni	Sep 2015	#151
I can see that my point here is made...... time for quail breasts and a nice Avignon....	clarice	Sep 2015	#104
Do you think BLM is a hate group?	Kingofalldems	Sep 2015	#106
Why is that relevant?	TeddyR	Sep 2015	#116
You're having a town in France?	REP	Sep 2015	#152
One must have oppasable thumbs to be able to dine on quail breasts and French towns.	betsuni	Sep 2015	#171
You're framing the murder of thesr men as a sarcastic joke?	whathehell	Sep 2015	#112
Sad when anyone is killed by gunfire	damnedifIknow	Sep 2015	#126
Do you have a link to a thread you started entitled "When is the killing of Black people by police	randys1	Sep 2015	#128
Officer deaths are down 13 percent over last year	Android3.14	Sep 2015	#130
I bet you're one of those "All Lives Matter" people. nt	LexVegas	Sep 2015	#131
I hope it end today, and at the same time...	Stellar	Sep 2015	#132
When they outlaw guns!	B Calm	Sep 2015	#137
People killing cops, cops killing innocent people, both are tragic	Marrah_G	Sep 2015	#142
When limbic brained questions are replaced with real dialogue?	MrMickeysMom	Sep 2015	#149
It is called blow back	YabaDabaNoDinoNo	Sep 2015	#153
The solution is simple.	ZombieHorde	Sep 2015	#154
There's been a homicide spike this summer. It's not clear why	Recursion	Sep 2015	#155
When the good cops start killing the bad cop	SoLeftIAmRight	Sep 2015	#156
just an exteniton of stand your ground	dembotoz	Sep 2015	#170

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