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branford

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134. You've made a great many sweeping allegations about law enforcement generally

Wed Sep 2, 2015, 07:33 PM

Sep 2015

and most of the 900,000+ law enforcement officers in this country.

I would be most interested reviewing the actual studies or primary data that support your conclusions? Given their exceptionally broad and pervasive nature, citations should be readily available, and remember that the plural of anecdotes is not necessarily data.

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When is this killing of police officers going to end !!!!!!!!!!?????????nt [View all] clarice Sep 2015 OP

When cops start going to jail for killing people? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #1

What would your best guess be? nt clarice Sep 2015 #18

That was my question as well. Why are you playing coy? Are you dismayed more by one than the other? Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #62

*bats eyes coyly*.... Huh? clarice Sep 2015 #65

Oh you're really clever. I don't have time for this. Enjoy your thread. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #68

I AM...... Glad that you enjoyed it too. peace. out. nt clarice Sep 2015 #77

So you are confirming that the latest cop killings were whathehell Sep 2015 #92

"The latest cop killings"...? Stellar Sep 2015 #166

IMO not all cops are bad. I think they need to get rid of bad apples, top to bottom, but RKP5637 Sep 2015 #2

My only complaint about the good cops is TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #5

Yes, that does seem to happen. nt clarice Sep 2015 #17

Did you ever consider that if that "does seem to happen" whathehell Sep 2015 #69

Also, sometimes, I think the superiors are as bad as the bad cops, so the good cops get caught RKP5637 Sep 2015 #20

The thin blue line is toxic. Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #103

There are over 900,000 sworn law enforcement officers in the USA branford Sep 2015 #28

Exactly!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2015 #29

Hot Damn !!!!!! Another intelligent response. Thanks Bran (no sarcasm) clarice Sep 2015 #38

I do not tolerate broad and unflattering generalizations and stereotyping of large diverse groups, branford Sep 2015 #41

Goodness ...... you ARE a smart cookie. nt clarice Sep 2015 #44

Noble cause corruption is very common though JonLP24 Sep 2015 #48

Replace policeman with politician, and you're right on the money. nt clarice Sep 2015 #61

All you've done is provide a lengthy explanation of why some officers branford Sep 2015 #72

The problem is that these bad apples carry guns and the authority inherent in the badge, so when Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #66

So do the criminals....but no badge....what standard should they be held to?. nt clarice Sep 2015 #80

I guess that standard imposed by law, but they're criminals, so they seem to Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #90

Gladly.... clarice Sep 2015 #96

Absolutely nothing I wrote implied that corruption or incompetence should not be addressed, branford Sep 2015 #93

how many of those 900,000 have turned in one of their own for punching/kick/faking a 'traffic stop'? Sunlei Sep 2015 #118

Actually it happens more often than not and usually goes under-reported... Historic NY Sep 2015 #127

That's like asking why moderate Muslims don't stop terrorist attacks branford Sep 2015 #133

Our police and the entire criminal Justice system have a long way to go to dig out of the hole. Sunlei Sep 2015 #135

That not really correct. branford Sep 2015 #139

We have a right to observe our gov employees at work, federal and local. Sunlei Sep 2015 #140

Well said! n/t justhanginon Sep 2015 #136

When this country isn't saturated with unregistered guns nt geek tragedy Sep 2015 #3

How would gun registration help? Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #32

guns would be circulated a lot less carelessly. geek tragedy Sep 2015 #37

I'm in favor of UBCs, Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #121

Snob...Don't even try....you're butting your head against a steel post. lo.l nt. clarice Sep 2015 #39

Having less than 320 million guns around would indeed help a lot. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #101

When cops stop shooting each other,,maybe marym625 Sep 2015 #4

How so? nt clarice Sep 2015 #12

Did the Cliven Bundy gang strike again? RandiFan1290 Sep 2015 #6

Preliminary 2015 Law Enforcement Officer Fatalities data Make7 Sep 2015 #7

Good find. nt clarice Sep 2015 #15

These statistics also include canine officers. herding cats Sep 2015 #25

Hmm seatbelt use is a problem among officers nadinbrzezinski Sep 2015 #47

According to FBI statistics ... surrealAmerican Sep 2015 #8

When scumbags stop being scumbags... ileus Sep 2015 #9

correct answer. nt clarice Sep 2015 #16

So all cops deserve to be killed because some are scumbags? whathehell Sep 2015 #124

No....scumbags being the people that shoot our LEO's. ileus Sep 2015 #146

Got it. n/t whathehell Sep 2015 #157

Is this supposed to be Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #10

Why would you think that ? nt clarice Sep 2015 #13

Is there an epidemic of police officer killings I am unaware of? Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #26

Yes, it seems so. Or maybe it's just my perception....you see clarice Sep 2015 #35

Annnndd, it seems your perception is wrong. truebluegreen Sep 2015 #129

There's been two in the last ten days.. whathehell Sep 2015 #159

It's perfectly liberal to be anti-murder Bucky Sep 2015 #52

I just thought that OP was possibly mocking Fox Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2015 #54

This guy gets it. Do you, Clarice? Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #95

No one here thinks they should be shot? branford Sep 2015 #107

Sounds like some are gloating about it...Sick, ugly stuff. whathehell Sep 2015 #158

"The highest rate increase of (occupational) casualty occurred in private construction." Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #11

Very interesting. nt clarice Sep 2015 #14

When are these on the job deaths of Lumberjacks going to end?!? A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #19

when more spotted owls are born lame54 Sep 2015 #31

Wait, it's safer to be a cop than an electrical power line installer? louis-t Sep 2015 #42

Having worked in construction for many years, padfun Sep 2015 #97

Yeah TeddyR Sep 2015 #111

So? Be offended. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #143

Um, when their deaths are caused by murder, maybe? whathehell Sep 2015 #160

This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #161

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #162

Why the quotes around your misspelling there, Skippy? A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #163

IIt was YOUR misspelling -- I just wanted to quote you exactly! whathehell Sep 2015 #164

Check it again, scooter. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #165

LOL whathehell Sep 2015 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author Go Vols Sep 2015 #21

Unbelievable. nt clarice Sep 2015 #45

I'll ask one of the McKinney officers at the next pool party. LanternWaste Sep 2015 #22

Too all concerned....don't be fooled. Lanternwaste also posts as Creekdog and KCR. FYI. nt clarice Sep 2015 #49

If you feel better about yourself by alleging so LanternWaste Sep 2015 #55

It's repeat subject line guy! nt Logical Sep 2015 #74

Your irrelevance is consistent. LanternWaste Sep 2015 #78

And my stalker! nt Logical Sep 2015 #81

Yet who responded to whom? LanternWaste Sep 2015 #88

LOL. Your slip is showing. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #71

Slip this. nt clarice Sep 2015 #73

Slip what clarice? Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #82

Freudian slip, maybe? LanternWaste Sep 2015 #75

Funniest post on DU today. Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #108

He does? CreekDog Sep 2015 #120

That really pisses me off CreekDog Sep 2015 #123

Sleep it off RandiFan1290 Sep 2015 #138

I heard that Obama changed "McKinney officers" to "Denali officers." Orrex Sep 2015 #167

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #23

Don't know what your point is, looks like gun deaths have gone down. Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Sep 2015 #110

Where did I say that? Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #113

Shameful. nt clarice Sep 2015 #50

So your opinion is that it's payback? Wow. whathehell Sep 2015 #119

Never? Cops get killed on the job. Since the days of the first LEO. Rex Sep 2015 #27

are you counting suicides? lame54 Sep 2015 #30

Sounds as if you've fallen victim to the rightwing trope? Officer killings are down. n/t Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #33

Shame on you for politicizing such a serious issue. nt clarice Sep 2015 #46

Funny, I thought the same thing of you. Why not ask the killers? Or do you think they post at DU? Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #117

This won't answer your question; but, I ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #34

Thank goodness !!!! An intelligent response. Appreciate it. nt clarice Sep 2015 #36

To further my thought ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2015 #40

I think that they do have a review process through Internal Affairs....... clarice Sep 2015 #43

One thing about this "vast majority of officers" that isn't mentioned. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #56

What a sweeping, stupid generalization. If you are a Liberal, you don't stereotype. nt clarice Sep 2015 #59

Bullshit. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #84

What other groups are you comfortable in stereotyping? just curious. nt clarice Sep 2015 #86

Certain DU posters, for one. n/t A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #102

IRS workers? CreekDog Sep 2015 #147

"The idea that most cops are good is nonsense because if it was true, there would be no bad cops." Snobblevitch Sep 2015 #141

Wow TeddyR Sep 2015 #114

Define "dangerous" A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #125

You've made a great many sweeping allegations about law enforcement generally branford Sep 2015 #134

Ahhhhh yes....those 900,000+ valiant boys in blue. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #145

You are free to disagree with my purported "perceptions" (i.e., not stereotyping). branford Sep 2015 #148

Go ahead and wait. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2015 #150

thank you Bucky Sep 2015 #53

+1 treestar Sep 2015 #169

probably will get worse as our society has imprisoned so many millions & destroyed so many families. Sunlei Sep 2015 #51

I would add that the criminals have to change also. nt clarice Sep 2015 #58

what criminals? Of course people should know it's not right to hurt or kill anyone. It is a crime. Sunlei Sep 2015 #115

Killings of Police Officers is Way Down Under Obama Z_California Sep 2015 #57

When the IRS starts kissing your ass, I guess. REP Sep 2015 #60

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #63

So why are you here? Ran out of cool stories? REP Sep 2015 #64

Just to piss you off. nt clarice Sep 2015 #67

Something else you fail at. Like spelling. Or cool stories. REP Sep 2015 #70

You are dismissed. Go do your homework. nt clarice Sep 2015 #76

You're not very good at this, are you. REP Sep 2015 #79

Good enough so that everyone else here is laughing at you. My work here is done. nt clarice Sep 2015 #85

Won't get better on either side - police or "civilian" - until we do something about gunz. eom Hoyt Sep 2015 #83

Agreed...especially getting them out of the criminals hands.nt clarice Sep 2015 #91

Some of these responses are contemptible. tymorial Sep 2015 #87

Bravo. nt clarice Sep 2015 #89

I would hope your post is not alerted on, much less hidden. Too many shooting period in our country. Hoyt Sep 2015 #100

Thank you +100 840high Sep 2015 #144

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Thank you for your thoughtfulness. Please confine your vitriol to the subject at hand.nt clarice Sep 2015 #98

Vitriol, that's such a big word for you! Nice job! Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #105

... PETRUS Sep 2015 #172

Can you please explain the non-thinking that led you to say that Lanternwaste uses my account? CreekDog Sep 2015 #122

Looks like republican opinions to me. Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #99

And trolling. Starry Messenger Sep 2015 #109

And this person complained of being looked down on because of his "bright, optimistic attitude" betsuni Sep 2015 #151

I can see that my point here is made...... time for quail breasts and a nice Avignon.... clarice Sep 2015 #104

Do you think BLM is a hate group? Kingofalldems Sep 2015 #106

Why is that relevant? TeddyR Sep 2015 #116

You're having a town in France? REP Sep 2015 #152

One must have oppasable thumbs to be able to dine on quail breasts and French towns. betsuni Sep 2015 #171

You're framing the murder of thesr men as a sarcastic joke? whathehell Sep 2015 #112

Sad when anyone is killed by gunfire damnedifIknow Sep 2015 #126

Do you have a link to a thread you started entitled "When is the killing of Black people by police randys1 Sep 2015 #128

Officer deaths are down 13 percent over last year Android3.14 Sep 2015 #130

I bet you're one of those "All Lives Matter" people. nt LexVegas Sep 2015 #131

I hope it end today, and at the same time... Stellar Sep 2015 #132

When they outlaw guns! B Calm Sep 2015 #137

People killing cops, cops killing innocent people, both are tragic Marrah_G Sep 2015 #142

When limbic brained questions are replaced with real dialogue? MrMickeysMom Sep 2015 #149

It is called blow back YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #153

The solution is simple. ZombieHorde Sep 2015 #154

There's been a homicide spike this summer. It's not clear why Recursion Sep 2015 #155

When the good cops start killing the bad cop SoLeftIAmRight Sep 2015 #156

just an exteniton of stand your ground dembotoz Sep 2015 #170