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In reply to the discussion: For those complaining Tesla's vehicles are toys for the rich. The Model 3 arrives in 2017 for $35K [View all]Statistical
(19,264 posts)43. No time for coffee
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Still in my opinion despite how cool this is it is only going to be niche. Most Americans don't travel 400+ miles per day. You plug it in when you get home and it automatically charges not right away but at the absolute cheapest rate of the day. The 1% of the time you are traveling long distance well you use a supercharger and yes it does take say 15-20 minutes. Now compare how many hours in a year you spend pumping gas.
The ability to charge off peak is huge. Think about over 10 years and 120,000 miles.
Gasoline engine 30mpg @ $3 per gallon = $12,000
Gasoline engine 30mpg @ $4 per gallon = $16,000
Gasoline engine 30mpg @ $5 per gallon = $20,000
BEV 300 watts per mile @ $0.10 per kWh = $3,600
BEV 300 watts per mile @ $0.04 per kWh = $1,440
Right now batteries are expensive and heavy but they are getting about 10% cheaper and 6% lighter a year. This is a trend which has been happening over a long time and shows no signs of stopping. So in 10 years or so you're going to have 400 to 500 mile battery packs which are cheaper and lighter (making the car even more efficient) than we have now. Combined with thousands of super chargers for long trips, and tens of thousands of destination chargers at stores, restaurants, and hotels. It is going to be a non-issue by the time most people are ready to own a BEV.
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For those complaining Tesla's vehicles are toys for the rich. The Model 3 arrives in 2017 for $35K [View all]
Statistical
Sep 2015
OP
Imagine a battery the size of a suitcase able to power a car for 500 miles or a house...goodbye oil!
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#1
Oil was indeed too good of an energy package...and way too profitable.....until maybe now it isn't?
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#8
Batteries can't be charged as fast as gasoline tank (back to my gasoline was too good)
Statistical
Sep 2015
#11
You can exchange packs faster than charging... a 250 mile range is around 4 days of driving...
uponit7771
Sep 2015
#30
Well, you have to drive to a gas station but with electric your cheap as dirt gas station is at home.
Fred Sanders
Sep 2015
#28
You have a point, a 7 yr old car is fully depreciated and quality is better now... cars last
uponit7771
Sep 2015
#29