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In reply to the discussion: No, racism and sexism don't "go both ways" [View all]Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)167. It's a derailing tactic.
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And you didn't address it. You simply edited the dictionary entry to one usage
Gormy Cuss
Sep 2015
#18
That's the same excuse I use when I omit relevant context to validate my own biases too!
LanternWaste
Sep 2015
#249
Sorry, but this is just one of those new 'truisms' that people in echo chambers tell each other.
Marr
Sep 2015
#2
Correct, it is not racism. It is bigotry. Racism is having the power of the collective and govt
NoJusticeNoPeace
Sep 2015
#98
It sure is important to some that a black person can be called a racist...
NoJusticeNoPeace
Sep 2015
#108
An Asian who is part of the ruling class and power can be called a racist, ANYONE who is part
NoJusticeNoPeace
Sep 2015
#113
LOL... yeah- let's all argue to dumb down English and use less precise and meaningful terminology!
bettyellen
Sep 2015
#188
So you can call me an idiot, but if I did it, i would be hidden, guaranteed. NO, in America a black
NoJusticeNoPeace
Sep 2015
#121
bigotry would describe that MORE accurately- because racism can and often does mean more-
bettyellen
Sep 2015
#193
So if a white person were attacked by non-whites for being white that wouldn't be racism?
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#94
bigotry, because in the USA, non-whites suffer from being in a lower power position nt
steve2470
Sep 2015
#106
Seems a distinction without a difference -- particularly to the victim.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2015
#211
midandrist is the opposite of misogynist, not the opposite of sexism. Both misognyists
merrily
Sep 2015
#12
I know, right? "Have the two of you had gender yet" just doesn't make it. (no pun intended).
merrily
Sep 2015
#27
I did not say it was the opposite just as bigot is not the opposite of racist
notadmblnd
Sep 2015
#20
I know what the OP said and what you said. I was not contradicting you or arguing with you.
merrily
Sep 2015
#24
Sex is a biological condition based on chromosomes. Gender is a social and psychological
tblue37
Sep 2015
#88
Context matters--and informs meaning. "Theory" means one thing in common speech and
tblue37
Sep 2015
#102
The meaning of words is a different issue from the suffering of peoples (sic) or white privilege.
merrily
Sep 2015
#15
You cant, they very badly want to be able to call you a racist. That is all this is about.
NoJusticeNoPeace
Sep 2015
#110
Institutional or systemic animus works systemically. Personal animus still matters.
DirkGently
Sep 2015
#10
It does go both ways. But in vastly different amounts and with different effects.
Brickbat
Sep 2015
#31
You're confusing terms. Discrimination requires a power imbalance. Not racism or sexism.
Xithras
Sep 2015
#37
Why would't you choose to be more accurate and describe it as bigotry when it fits better?
bettyellen
Sep 2015
#194
I lay the blame at the TOS. The Admins support this kind of horizonal interpretation of racism.
Starry Messenger
Sep 2015
#185
If they concede this, they can't say the other side is racist and sexist too.
KitSileya
Sep 2015
#235
oh give me a break, we white folks run this country and make sure tons of blacks get locked up
steve2470
Sep 2015
#75
Dictionaries are made by groups of people within a structure and within institutions
gollygee
Sep 2015
#130
yes, they are all more accurate terms used because there are important distinctions when racism is
bettyellen
Sep 2015
#187
Of course it can and does go both ways. Any individual can be racist or sexist.
uppityperson
Sep 2015
#69
So when the Japanese killed most of my dad's family in WWII calling them an "inferior race"....
Lee-Lee
Sep 2015
#73
Actually, I think it was originally meant to be "democratic" as in "democracy"
Art_from_Ark
Sep 2015
#236
you understand that bigotry would be a MUCH more accurate term when there are no systemic effects?
bettyellen
Sep 2015
#198
And yet bias based on things other than race are often fully supported by systems and institutions
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#209
nope, the definition for racism has already broadened to mean what it does today. That other words
bettyellen
Sep 2015
#212
LGBT are not beside the point, and as long as the bigotry of straight people is enforced against us
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#215
I never said they were. And so, stopped reading after I read that bullshit. Try honest conversations
bettyellen
Sep 2015
#217
I am talking about this heterocentric definition of bigotry you are foisting.
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2015
#221
I don't get why you'd like to limit the meaning of words- or ascribe motives to those who use them
bettyellen
Sep 2015
#223
The language already has a means of expressing the idea of institutionalized racism.
Marr
Sep 2015
#242
Sure, because if one disagrees with subliterate definitions, one MUST be anti-feminist
Major Nikon
Sep 2015
#222
A productive discussion about institutional racism (or sexism) could be had.
lumberjack_jeff
Sep 2015
#227
Because Bernie is more of a feminist than Hillary and done more for Minorities than the President,
orpupilofnature57
Sep 2015
#205
Not that being critical of the President or Hillary would be perceived as either, Right ?? Bullshit
orpupilofnature57
Sep 2015
#204
I Think the objective is Dismissal of Bernie, more than understanding Cornel .
orpupilofnature57
Sep 2015
#248
Who has done more for African Americans than Barry & Hillary put together, yeah Cornel West .
orpupilofnature57
Sep 2015
#247
Minority and disadvantaged individuals can be racist but RACISM is institutional
KittyWampus
Sep 2015
#258