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Egnever

(21,506 posts)
15. Getting jobs because you are white is completely different
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 12:52 AM
Sep 2015

Than thinking you are owed a job because you are white.

I do not for a second deny the fact that in a situation where both candidates are equal the vast majority of the time the white guy will get the job. A big reason for this is people tend to hire people like themselves and an overwhelming majority of people in the position to do the hiring are white.

There have been plenty of studies on this and the same pattern is repeated over and over. It is part of human nature and hard to overcome even when the people who are doing the hiring are trying to be conscious of it.

The demographics are changing quickly however and with any luck it wont be much longer before the people doing the hiring won't be so heavily dominated by white people. The problem won't go away, it will just shift. I think diversity is important and sadly hard to come by in any hiring space because of peoples internal bias towards hiring hiring people like themselves.

Sadly it is something that is near impossible to break free of, it is the way we are wired.

There will always be hiring bias, that doesn't mean white people think they are owed jobs because they are white. Some white people likely do because they are knuckle dragging neanderthals But in all my years of being a white guy I have never heard another white person say they were entitled to a job because they are white which is what the article is suggesting as some sort of widespread belief.

I have heard white people complain that they weren't hired because of affirmative action giving the job to the POC instead of them. Personally every time I hear that I think it is much more likely it was because the person who said it was an ass than it was affirmative action. I also think if it was true too fucking bad go down the street and try again at the next place. Because as I said above the people doing the hiring tend to hire people like themselves and there's a whole lot more white folks doing the hiring than there are people of color. The tables aren't equal. The white person has the advantage in the hiring process the majority of the time.

All of that said the idea that there are a large swath of white people who think they are owed jobs because they are white is fucking nonsense.


Anyone who ever thought they would Egnever Sep 2015 #1
LOL!!!!!!! Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #2
Yea that was my reaction to the article as well Egnever Sep 2015 #3
No it wasn't Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #4
My SIL is one, and I've come across her attitude quite a bit. Lars39 Sep 2015 #8
People get jobs because they're white all the time alcibiades_mystery Sep 2015 #14
Getting jobs because you are white is completely different Egnever Sep 2015 #15
Oh, for pete's sake! White people as an entire group MineralMan Sep 2015 #5
So true. Some whites think they are the truly oppressed. FuzzyRabbit Sep 2015 #6
It's even worse than the persecuted Christian. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #7
"a group dedicated to addressing white privilege has recently started in the town where I live" Number23 Sep 2015 #9
Thanks. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #22
I love this post so much I want to drizzle it in chocolate and eat it like a cookie Number23 Sep 2015 #28
yep you nailed it steve2470 Sep 2015 #33
OFFS Scuba Sep 2015 #10
It's oppression when you get to have what I get to have... Dont call me Shirley Sep 2015 #11
Great article. KyleMcShades Sep 2015 #12
Like the horror movie character who goes into the basement after being warned betsuni Sep 2015 #13
You never would have survived JustAnotherGen Sep 2015 #19
Yeah, some of the comments on this DU thread are disappointing. Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #21
Was referring to the comments on the article's page but KyleMcShades Sep 2015 #25
White liberals and millennials. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #27
There are laws against institutional or systemic bias. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2015 #16
Here's the real reason more whites aren't engaged in race discussions: Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #24
What do you mean by "ceding the privilege?" Nevernose Sep 2015 #29
By ceding the privilege I mean being willing to give up the advantages Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #30
"Calling yourself color-blind is not progress—it's insulting" oberliner Sep 2015 #17
If you are poor, you are oppressed, regardless of color eridani Sep 2015 #18
Vice, Tim Wise...ehhh romanic Sep 2015 #20
White people are easily brainwashed it seems, especially white males. Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #23
Key phrase is in your post HassleCat Sep 2015 #26
interestingly "Whites" might not be on the way out since most racewatchers (is that a word? MisterP Sep 2015 #31
Most all of us are oppressed quaker bill Sep 2015 #32
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