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Eleanors38

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21. I think this is better than trotting out the same ban rhetoric...

Thu Oct 8, 2015, 07:29 PM

Oct 2015

If someone wants to propose laws at a local or state level, have at it. But at the national level, gun control has become a scarlet letter affixed to the Party.

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Its time for Democrats to drop the gun control platform [View all] Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 OP

. Rex Oct 2015 #1

I agree Rex. GGJohn Oct 2015 #6

Sounds good! Rex Oct 2015 #8

Extra butter? eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #9

Movie theater butter! Rex Oct 2015 #13

Outstanding!!! eom. GGJohn Oct 2015 #15

Damn disapointing.................... oneshooter Oct 2015 #111

Popped some popcorn? Quackers Oct 2015 #104

Strangely enough...I also had some bubble wrap laying around. Rex Oct 2015 #105

Hey guys... Kang Colby Oct 2015 #14

Got an entire case in the fridge. Here crack open a cold one! Rex Oct 2015 #17

I'm on it. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #39

No problem, GGJohn Oct 2015 #18

My pad batts are running out, guess I'll miss the woowoo talk! Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #23

Drop in the charger. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #34

Think I am going to need something a lot stronger! Initech Oct 2015 #98

Pass the butter please! Initech Oct 2015 #97

I think my expression in this thread is more like Jons. Rex Oct 2015 #106

NRA and gun lovers are really feeling the pressure, is what this OP tells me...first Bengazhi falls, Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #2

Exactly right! The terrorist enabler gun lobby group NRA workinclasszero Oct 2015 #127

Your concern is noted. stone space Oct 2015 #3

No. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2015 #4

Except there were fewer mass shootings when the ban was in effect villager Oct 2015 #5

What trolling? Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 #7

Your concern trolling, obviously villager Oct 2015 #11

Villager is in charge of things 'round here. Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #24

But everyone knows who really runs things kcr Oct 2015 #52

what stats, we don't need any stinking stats! Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #37

they may have to chose btwn guns and s.s.,medicare,the environment,war,poverty,no education saturnsring Oct 2015 #10

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2015 #12

Run on other issues, then once they have a majority, boom, pass some meaningful reform NightWatcher Oct 2015 #16

Yeah ... Straw Man Oct 2015 #63

" Freakin' peasants don't know what's good for 'em anyway, right?" demwing Oct 2015 #77

Then and now. Straw Man Oct 2015 #112

Many of the freakin' peasants don't know what's good, period. JackRiddler Oct 2015 #167

No. zappaman Oct 2015 #19

The art of the paragraph. trumad Oct 2015 #20

(!) (nt) enough Oct 2015 #38

I learned about the paragraph in elementary school. cpwm17 Oct 2015 #139

I think this is better than trotting out the same ban rhetoric... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #21

Must be a republican troll rockfordfile Oct 2015 #22

Ok TeddyR Oct 2015 #26

Ok then Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 #25

Which candidates would those be? Nevernose Oct 2015 #43

Can you say "assault weapon" ban? pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #68

If the dems want to win in sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #27

No doubt Bettie Oct 2015 #28

Everynone here wants to cut down on the mass shootings TeddyR Oct 2015 #29

I'd rather cut down on solo shootings. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #32

^^^This^^^!!! GGJohn Oct 2015 #41

LOL, you love that idea, so what is your solution...... Logical Oct 2015 #80

Gee, did I ever say I had a solution? GGJohn Oct 2015 #86

Either way, the gun people Bettie Oct 2015 #45

You're tired, huh? pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #69

Fine... Bettie Oct 2015 #79

"Happy now, Ben Carson?" pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #116

Kleck? Hemenway? maxsolomon Oct 2015 #99

David Bordua, James Wright, Peter Rossi [RIP] and Gary Kleck to name four. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #117

Oh, I'm sure he "takes them apart". maxsolomon Oct 2015 #144

There's that cheap, unstudied dismissal that you Controllers love to trot out. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #145

Exactly. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #50

And kids accidentally killing one another. n/t OneGrassRoot Oct 2015 #84

Can we walk and chew gum at the same time? stone space Oct 2015 #87

I'm not sure we can walk or chew gum. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #88

Well Bettie Oct 2015 #47

No thanks. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #30

LOL Skittles Oct 2015 #31

No nt upaloopa Oct 2015 #33

So would you agree that the plan countingbluecars Oct 2015 #35

I agree Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 #57

No fucking way mwrguy Oct 2015 #36

Pass. City Lights Oct 2015 #40

Me too ellie Oct 2015 #166

K&R...telling it like it is. Kang Colby Oct 2015 #42

You might as well just become a republican by your logic. BTW, you might feel more at home at... madinmaryland Oct 2015 #44

jury results restorefreedom Oct 2015 #110

I'd rather stand with a losing platform than win on a mound of dead bodies. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #46

Except that jack_krass Oct 2015 #75

So mass murder is acceptable and ethical concern for human life is not. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #108

No, definitely not jack_krass Oct 2015 #129

Says who? ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #130

I do :) jack_krass Oct 2015 #133

We've tried passing no gun laws for years. We need a different idea. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #131

??? jack_krass Oct 2015 #136

We do not pass regulations because the NRA lobbys Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #141

^^^^^ THIS! ^^^^^ stone space Oct 2015 #123

How many people would vote for Democrats if they held a different stance on just this one issue? shawn703 Oct 2015 #48

Yes Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 #109

No, thanks. MineralMan Oct 2015 #49

On, boy... branford Oct 2015 #51

No. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #53

Trade my values for votes? No thanks. nt TeamPooka Oct 2015 #54

I strongly disagree with your analysis and conclusions Gothmog Oct 2015 #55

But you'll tender no evidence to support you statements. Gotcha. NT pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #71

I wonder how many of our gunners would vote for a Republican over gunz. Hoyt Oct 2015 #56

That does seem to be what they believe a large number of Americans do, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #78

That's my feeling too. Hoyt Oct 2015 #94

Many people are one issue voters, including a great many Democrats. branford Oct 2015 #95

Not worth the political capital LittleBlue Oct 2015 #58

No. brer cat Oct 2015 #59

No. Chan790 Oct 2015 #60

Not only NO, but HELL NO! -none Oct 2015 #61

Before you get all excited, ... Straw Man Oct 2015 #64

Bravo, sir.......BRAVO! pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #74

What I see above is just another post that says don't do anything about the slaughter because of -none Oct 2015 #92

Then you have profoundly misunderstood. Straw Man Oct 2015 #115

You can start here -none Oct 2015 #121

Nothing to see there. Straw Man Oct 2015 #122

No it doesn't. The first link takes you to a list debunking five of the NRA's talking points. -none Oct 2015 #124

Now it does. Last night it didn't. Straw Man Oct 2015 #125

I know they want to mislead people Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #126

Are you on crack? lancer78 Oct 2015 #62

What about it? Dwayne Hicks Oct 2015 #65

If you read it lancer78 Oct 2015 #66

That's not entirely clear, and certainly debatable. branford Oct 2015 #67

As branford as pointed out, "assault weapon" bans have been the centerpiece pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #72

it's very difficult, debating someone who believes NRA propaganda Skittles Oct 2015 #134

As it's very difficult debating someone who believes that certain guns pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #146

Bullshit. It's time for us to have a smarter gun control platform Recursion Oct 2015 #70

This is where I fall as well. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #90

I agree.......great post. pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #73

No. grntuscarora Oct 2015 #76

Well, once again, from the "no can do" caucus... CTyankee Oct 2015 #81

You have my vote, Dwayne. NaturalHigh Oct 2015 #82

Not a chance. (nt) Paladin Oct 2015 #83

politics should not be about supporting what you think is popular drray23 Oct 2015 #85

Let's now legalize murder, armed robbery, rape and assault IDemo Oct 2015 #89

+1000 Punkingal Oct 2015 #91

Do tell. Straw Man Oct 2015 #128

My guns! My guns! Don't insult my guns! hunter Oct 2015 #93

they're paranoid idiots Skittles Oct 2015 #135

Yep. Those who haven't experienced gun violence or can't imagine it as something bad... hunter Oct 2015 #138

No. It's too important. Our lives depend on it. Vinca Oct 2015 #96

I agree with the OP. GOLGO 13 Oct 2015 #100

I agree, will only cost us votes. nt Logical Oct 2015 #101

If they do drop it, they'll lose even more votes, Pathwalker Oct 2015 #102

Won't somebody please think of Turbineguy Oct 2015 #103

No doubt, the little mind favors political expedience over personal conviction LanternWaste Oct 2015 #107

Effective gun control is a fantasy while the 2nd amendment stands davidn3600 Oct 2015 #113

Just stop your idiotic conversation about gun control! It is about time that the US curb who gets akbacchus_BC Oct 2015 #114

An article written over ten years ago for The Nation...... pablo_marmol Oct 2015 #118

Thanks for posting this article, I read it twice. RiverLover Oct 2015 #120

sometimes you don't have something in a platform because it's a winner. Sometimes you do it because craigmatic Oct 2015 #119

NRA BS propaganda...gee nothing can be done workinclasszero Oct 2015 #132

No, it's not. But thank you for your concern. Iggo Oct 2015 #137

You're right, a universal ban would be far preferable. frustrated_lefty Oct 2015 #140

Fuck no. we can do it Oct 2015 #142

While the Repukes are weak it's a good time to kick ass on gun nuttery flamingdem Oct 2015 #143

I hope your guns get confiscated along with every other firearm on the planet. ThePhilosopher04 Oct 2015 #147

I don't agree; guns are an unavoidable issue mvd Oct 2015 #148

We still have an automatic weapons ban. We have for 80 years. Recursion Oct 2015 #149

Hi Recursion mvd Oct 2015 #153

I'm curious, why would you like it brought back? Recursion Oct 2015 #154

It was working well mvd Oct 2015 #157

I agree; I literally don't care about it either way. Recursion Oct 2015 #159

Well I think attitudes may be changing mvd Oct 2015 #162

How so? beevul Oct 2015 #163

I don't feel I need to explain mvd Oct 2015 #164

Shrug. Ok. beevul Oct 2015 #165

Guns have been required to have a"distinctive serial number" since 1934. oneshooter Oct 2015 #156

But do they keep track of them? Seems some sort of registration would be.. mvd Oct 2015 #158

Curently a national firearms registration is against Federal Law. oneshooter Oct 2015 #160

No. It's time for ALL Americans, including the 90% who want gun controls, LynnTheDem Oct 2015 #150

Poll: 92 percent of gun owners support universal background checks LynnTheDem Oct 2015 #151

Yea... deathrind Oct 2015 #152

Yeah.......no. Thanks for playing. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2015 #155

Drop Gun Control To Save Gun Control? lame54 Oct 2015 #161