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pampango

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46. FDR's ITO pioneered the concept of neutral arbitration of trade disputes, much more than just
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:31 PM
Nov 2015

reducing tariffs. His ITO also introduced employment, labor and development standards as part of a trade agreement.

Along with the World Bank and the IMF, the International Trade Organization (ITO) formed the centrepiece of new kind of international organization in the mid to late 1940s. At the time, what was particularly novel about the Havana Charter was that it was not simply or mainly a trade organization like the WTO, its latter day descendent. At its core, the countries of the world, rejected the idea that it was possible to maintain a firewall between trade, development, employment standards and domestic policy. Its most distinctive feature was the integration of an ambitious and successful program to reduce traditional trade barriers, with a wide-angled agreement that addressed investment, employment standards, development, business monopolies and the like. It pioneered the idea that trade disputes had to be settled by consultation and mediation rather than with legal clout. Further it established an institutional linkage between trade and labour standards that would effect a major advance in global governance. Finally it embedded the full employment obligation, along with "a commitment to free markets" as the cornerstone of multilateralism.

Despite these accomplishments, the US Congress refused to ratify the Havana Charter even though it had signed it. As a direct consequence, the ITO's collapse represented a significant closure of the full employment era internationally. In the end, it's demise made possible the rapid return of the free trade canon that increasingly, would impose its authority and ideology on all international organizations and on the practice of multilateralism. As this essay concludes, its history compelling because whatever its apparent shortcomings, governments, economists and ordinary people demanded that trade, employment goals and developmental needs should reinforce each other in the world trading system.

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/pais/research/researchcentres/csgr/research/workingpapers/2000/wp6200.pdf

The republican congress rejected the ITO proposed by FDR and negotiated by Truman, precisely for the national sovereignty concern about a multilateral organization making decisions that would affect the US.

The IMF and World Bank were approved by congress while it was still controlled by Democrats. The negotiation of the ITO did not end until republicans had taken control of congress. GATT was a supposed to be a temporary part of the ITO. Truman authorized it by executive order since he thought the republican congress would kill that too.
I would go for option 2 Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #1
I agree, but whatever replaces it will need to trade and the USA will "lose" as Hoyt Nov 2015 #2
You are right, I think. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #3
The only transfers that have taken place are those going to the 1%-ers in poor countries. eridani Nov 2015 #4
Most of the wealth will disappear when taken, since it is just paper. Then, Americans Hoyt Nov 2015 #5
Bull. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #9
From a world perspective, you are a 1%er. Hoyt Nov 2015 #19
I am fully aware of this. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #25
"Wealth" is not "just paper". ronnie624 Nov 2015 #15
Exactly. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #16
The OP is about capitalism. Apparently, you have no interest in helping poor countries. Hoyt Nov 2015 #18
I think capitalism is intellectually and morally flawed. ronnie624 Nov 2015 #20
The purpose of an empire is to fuck over countries for the benefit of the 1% everywhere eridani Nov 2015 #23
Yeah, poor countries will progress trading among themselves. I thinj they've tried that. Hoyt Nov 2015 #31
India has made cheap pharmaceutical knockoffs for years. Very successfully, too. eridani Nov 2015 #35
"We had tariffs in place for many years ..." And then along came FDR who pampango Nov 2015 #40
True, but reducing tariffs is just reducing tariffs. It has nothing to do with ISDS and other-- eridani Nov 2015 #44
FDR's ITO pioneered the concept of neutral arbitration of trade disputes, much more than just pampango Nov 2015 #46
Give an example of a tribunal overruling a government in the FDR/Truman era n/t eridani Nov 2015 #48
I can't. The republican-controlled congress rejected FDR's ITO. FDR and Truman believed in pampango Nov 2015 #52
OK, then how about an example of ISDS overruling any government before NAFTA n/t eridani Nov 2015 #53
This is about the one percent fucktards who impoverish everyone eridani Nov 2015 #21
what a bunch of BS Skittles Nov 2015 #36
I care about poor everywhere, and think TPP is one way to help all of them, including those here. Hoyt Nov 2015 #37
uh huh Skittles Nov 2015 #38
What is your proposal to help the poor globally? Do nothing, stifle trade, what then? Hoyt Nov 2015 #39
it's got NOTHING TO DO with HELPING THE POOR *ANYWHERE* Skittles Nov 2015 #42
Good. You clearly don't care, and certainly have no idea how to do it. Hoyt Nov 2015 #43
Stop big pharma from jacking up prices for generics by stopping TPP, for one n/t eridani Nov 2015 #47
Don't think TPP does anything to generics. Well, maybe prevents a. Country from counterfeiting Hoyt Nov 2015 #49
Gvoernment regulation of drug prices is what TPP is designed to prevent. eridani Nov 2015 #50
On the mark... ReallyIAmAnOptimist Nov 2015 #6
The end result of capitalism is the concentration of wealth in the top tier bhikkhu Nov 2015 #7
Bingo. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #10
+1000 smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #33
I favor option 2 Hydra Nov 2015 #8
Bingo. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #11
Have you ever Munificence Nov 2015 #12
Well, it's functioning fine to reward the capitalists. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #13
'Small-scale' might be okay, I guess, ronnie624 Nov 2015 #17
Absolutely. nt SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #26
Well isn't that a good thing...the end of capitalism? Isn't that what DUers want? kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #14
TPP is a race to the bottom to benefit the 1% eridani Nov 2015 #22
The end of capitalism is what this DUer wants. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #54
And yet the past 20 years have seen the largest *decrease* in global inequality in history Recursion Nov 2015 #24
Not opposite, just progress. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #27
80 people own most of the worlds wealth. Rex Nov 2015 #32
The 1% did even better before FDR when there were no trade agreements and little trade. pampango Nov 2015 #41
From your link: ronnie624 Nov 2015 #28
Here's a take on the TPP from across the Atlantic. GoneOffShore Nov 2015 #29
The TPP scrupulously avoids the elephant in the living-room: ronnie624 Nov 2015 #30
K&R. eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #34
Civilization is a resource concentration mechanism The2ndWheel Nov 2015 #45
Restrained capitalism with a helping of socialism thrown in worked very well for a long time Warpy Nov 2015 #51
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