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marym625

(17,997 posts)
Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:58 AM Nov 2015

It's time to prosecute those responsible for the war in Iraq [View all]

Executive order or not, this must not go unpunished. If there is no way around the executive order, for instance using evidence discovered since it was written, then the executive order itself must be attacked to get past it. Why is an executive order allowed to use for illegal acts that break ever single piece of legislation, treaty, etc that addresses war? We have an obligation to our troops, their families, the Iraqi people, the troops in other countries, the U.N. and the world to prosecute these bastards.

I will not stop talking about this. I will continue to bring it up in every conversation I can. While campaigning for Bernie Sanders, while collecting signatures for the CAFreeAct, while standing on the corner shouting support for Planned Parenthood, I will make it part of the conversation.

We attacked, a first strike, against a country that did us no harm. Shock and Awe, bombing innocent people into oblivion. Children scarred, burned, mutilated, murdered by the United States of America. For what? Control of oil. For money.

Planned in the dark rooms of the Bush white house. Planned for well over a year to lie to the citizens of the country he fought dirty to run. Planned using classified emails and memos to foreign leaders to lie to their people, their citizens, their soldiers. Planned with malice. Planned with no emotion, no thought to the millions of innocent people they knew would suffer. Planned with not an iota of compassion for the hundreds of thousands they knew would die.

Planned to include the "collateral damage" of young men and women from the country they swore to serve and protect, men and women that wanted only to save our country from what they believed to be a threat. Our own children, wives, husbands, parents, murdered by the scum of the earth. Over 5000 of our own, sent to die by the warmongering, money hungry devil that is George W. Bush.

And the U.S. main stream media remains silent. The silence is deafening. The silence shouts out, "we're bought and paid for."

The last lines of the song, Johnny I Hardly Knew Ye, is what I pledge to do my best to make sure it will never happen here again.

"They're rolling out the guns again, but they'll not take my sons again. No they'll not take my sons again, Johnny I'm swearing to ye"

Not in my name.

Arrest, try and convict Bush, Cheney, Powell,Wolfowitz, Rice and anyone else that conspired for that wretched, illegal war.

#Bernie2016

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K and R Rochester Nov 2015 #1
Thank you marym625 Nov 2015 #2
Exactly. tecelote Nov 2015 #6
"We need to stop this in 2016 by making sure our candidates know we want peace." marym625 Nov 2015 #10
Their profit was from the U.S. American Taxpayers! Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #143
Precisely malaise Nov 2015 #3
Thank you, malaise. marym625 Nov 2015 #11
Well said! nt raccoon Nov 2015 #4
Thank you. marym625 Nov 2015 #12
anyone who excuses IWR MAKES ME SICK Skittles Nov 2015 #5
Same here. I have no idea how anyone can do that., marym625 Nov 2015 #13
I am not a rabid fan of ANY politician Skittles Nov 2015 #120
it is mind boggling marym625 Nov 2015 #122
Don't wander into GD-P then. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #20
What got me ther other day were the complaints about the girl lying on the grave Hepburn Nov 2015 #105
Will go a long way toward restoring Justice. Octafish Nov 2015 #7
god, I had forgotten that. "money trumps peace" marym625 Nov 2015 #15
Grandfather Prescott had his eyes set on Iraq's oil in 1959. Octafish Nov 2015 #28
It's beyond any words I have. marym625 Nov 2015 #51
It is little wonder the Bush boys are the way they are. Enthusiast Nov 2015 #139
Let's get Hillary Biden and kerry in that bunch too Township75 Nov 2015 #8
There is no doubt in my mind, they knew the truth. n/t marym625 Nov 2015 #16
Everyone is so outraged and wants so much justice until it comes back to bite their favorite Township75 Nov 2015 #24
absolutely. marym625 Nov 2015 #32
YOU NAIL IT Skittles Nov 2015 #121
+1 Hepburn Nov 2015 #107
Voting isn't a crime. Votes for the Enabling Law in Nazi Germany weren't prosecuted. Nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #95
Minor problem with that: NuclearDem Nov 2015 #110
Breach of peace. Pesky little document. marym625 Nov 2015 #162
Voting to authorize a war does not constitute "breach of the peace." NuclearDem Nov 2015 #166
The rankor and lies in speeches, citing false facts, marym625 Nov 2015 #167
Are you seriously suggesting members of the branch of government responsible for declaring war NuclearDem Nov 2015 #170
lying to people to justify bombing innocent people, marym625 Nov 2015 #171
What enemy of the United States did they aid or give comfort to? NuclearDem Nov 2015 #175
they caused an army to take arms against the U.S. marym625 Nov 2015 #176
You've got to be kidding me. NuclearDem Nov 2015 #178
Obviously, you have not read SCOTUS decisions on treason. marym625 Nov 2015 #179
Considering you think Congressmen can be arrested for treason NuclearDem Nov 2015 #181
wrong again. marym625 Nov 2015 #184
You know, I saw Bridge of Spies the other night. And this morning I was thinking mnhtnbb Nov 2015 #9
It sure wouldn't hurt. The fact we have done nothing, absolutely nothing, marym625 Nov 2015 #19
Sounds like a good idea to me. Stevepol Nov 2015 #138
Throw ourselves on their mercy and try to make amends mwrguy Nov 2015 #154
It's unbelievable how little people here seem to understand ISIS theboss Nov 2015 #177
long past time but wildbilln864 Nov 2015 #14
Until we prosecute, the only forward is more Syrias, marym625 Nov 2015 #21
I completely agree. n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2015 #92
K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #17
Thank you, smirky marym625 Nov 2015 #22
we're too busy looking forward to KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #18
forward looks like more Syrias and Paris. marym625 Nov 2015 #23
its the 30 years war, v 2.0. the first iteration, between protestants KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #25
good analogy. Thank you. n/t marym625 Nov 2015 #49
What is the executive order to prevent the prosecution of those responsible for the Iraq War? Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #26
I think we may be closer than ever to actually doing something about that tularetom Nov 2015 #27
I hope you are correct peacebird Nov 2015 #31
That would be beautiful. marym625 Nov 2015 #36
The BLIAR is on the hook, wriggling... Ghost Dog Nov 2015 #140
+100 marym625 Nov 2015 #157
on m$nbc this am - michael chertoff and tom ridge spanone Nov 2015 #29
I had to turn MSNBC off when Ridge was on. I'm watching BBC News now. It's much better Cleita Nov 2015 #34
We have no real journalists in U.S. mainstream media marym625 Nov 2015 #38
Seymour Harsh and the McClatchy pair of reporters are the KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #187
Absolutely, Hersh is by far one of the top investigative journalists marym625 Nov 2015 #190
oh, right. The MSM largely adhere to the Judith KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #191
Yeah, and worse. Not even access anymore. Just marym625 Nov 2015 #192
I had forgotten how ill simply looking at those two makes one. chertoff looks more like a cadaver niyad Nov 2015 #101
Yes. No matter how powerful, rich, or connected. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #30
+1 marym625 Nov 2015 #39
Yep that whole PNAC crowd starting with Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld need to be put on trial Cleita Nov 2015 #33
absolutely. They are to blame for all of it. marym625 Nov 2015 #40
Prosecut them all, I don't care which party. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #35
I am going to contact the legal division of the ACLU Monday marym625 Nov 2015 #43
Please let us know what they tell you. These people should not be allowed to walk free. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #47
I don't know. Endless war seems to be the objective. marym625 Nov 2015 #55
I don't think this is on any of our candidates' short list. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #37
there may be something to that. Frankly, I don't care. marym625 Nov 2015 #44
The fucking republicans have spent years investigating Benghazi. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #50
It is going to take years of FOIA requests and cooperation from the media LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #84
There is already a mountain of evidence in the public domain. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #93
Granted, but you still have to bring charges. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #114
Considering justice does prosecute big banks onecaliberal Nov 2015 #115
Never gonna happen and it's foolish to think it ever could. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #41
I still believe in justice. marym625 Nov 2015 #45
Attempting to put a prior administration on trial would result in the worst injustices the world has MohRokTah Nov 2015 #48
How, oh wise one, would it result in "the worst injustices the KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #52
Once you set that precedent there would never again be a peaceful transfer of power in the US. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #54
So other countries and/or the World Court choie Nov 2015 #60
There is nothing to put them on trial for, other than for political purposes. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #63
Those are two separate thoughts choie Nov 2015 #80
Not kidding. No crimes. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #83
and I'll repeat HOW ABOUT TORTURE... choie Nov 2015 #87
No, I'll tell you about the 'worst injustices the world has ever seen." 1,000,000+ KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #62
There were no crimes committed in going to war with Iraq MohRokTah Nov 2015 #68
Bothered to read the U.N. Charter recently? Familiar with the precedents laid down KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #69
A coalition was FORMED. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #71
Jesus, you are dense. Only the U.N. Security Council can authorize any act KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #74
ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE! MohRokTah Nov 2015 #78
Not to mention the 1st Gulf War ended with a cease fire that the Iraqi's broke.. EX500rider Nov 2015 #141
I'm not sure dense does it justice stupidicus Nov 2015 #172
and I suppose choie Nov 2015 #82
Crimes? Probably. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #86
Hell, yes, Constutional rule comes first. okasha Nov 2015 #137
well, Moore, since u are such a fan of 'constutional rule' (sic), you probly KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #159
Crickets.... choie Nov 2015 #56
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #53
No violation of United States law there. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #57
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #61
He is an 'exceptionalist' as in the U.S. is the sole exception to otherwise KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #67
What's laughable is declaring a political decision illegal because you disagreed with it. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #70
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #73
The only spin I see are demands for arrests when no crime was committed. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #81
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #89
He likes to defend that group of people, funny ain't it? Rex Nov 2015 #108
You can believe what you want. I still believe in justice. marym625 Nov 2015 #58
What you are suggesting is not "justice". It is taking out those who disagree with you. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #59
"taking out those who disagree with you" That's absolutely ridiculous. marym625 Nov 2015 #64
It's foolish to think that will ever happen. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #72
I just have to point out, pontificating and then closing, is not a discussion. marym625 Nov 2015 #76
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #77
A system that perpetuates its obvious failures is worse than foolish. leveymg Nov 2015 #85
that attitude right there is the reason why Skittles Nov 2015 #123
End of discussion my ass... choie Nov 2015 #66
No laws were broken. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #79
Plenty of laws were broken. Only the justice system is too broken to prosecute anyone. leveymg Nov 2015 #88
We know it bothers you to even think about it. Rex Nov 2015 #106
I understand your devotion to the Oligarchy that wages war with our family members rhett o rick Nov 2015 #130
Actually, based upon your response, you don't understand a single damned thing about me. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #131
Actually, I think I do. You need the leadership of someone strong and authoritarian. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #132
I'm here to tell you, you have not a clue about anything related to me. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #133
You openly support the 1% and disparage those that don't. Your flyswatter rhett o rick Nov 2015 #134
And that response just absolutely PROVED, you have no clue about anything related to me. eom MohRokTah Nov 2015 #135
I am so with Mary. 99Forever Nov 2015 #42
Thank you, 99Forever. marym625 Nov 2015 #46
Um, they control both houses of Congress now. moondust Nov 2015 #65
Absolutely insane. marym625 Nov 2015 #75
Grrrr... moondust Nov 2015 #90
Everyone with a brain knows what's going on MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #91
we don't even have heart enough to report the emails proving steps to war based on lies. marym625 Nov 2015 #97
YES!!!!!!! niyad Nov 2015 #94
we have to cause action. I'm trying to figure out a course marym625 Nov 2015 #98
please let us know if you get any sort of positive response and suggestions. niyad Nov 2015 #99
Will do. marym625 Nov 2015 #103
i don't believe bernie sanders supports this JI7 Nov 2015 #96
I don't know if he does or doesn't. marym625 Nov 2015 #100
KNR Hepburn Nov 2015 #102
Thank you. marym625 Nov 2015 #104
Fine but, much like the honey badger and Janice in accounting, ISIS don't give a fuck. Metric System Nov 2015 #109
no, but maybe it would stop some from joining in the future marym625 Nov 2015 #116
I'm usually against capital punishment; but, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al, could justly be...... LongTomH Nov 2015 #111
yes, I remember Fallujah. marym625 Nov 2015 #117
Does That Extend To Those That Enabled The War - Like Uber War Hawker HRC cantbeserious Nov 2015 #112
if there is proof she knew anything about the lies, Damn straight marym625 Nov 2015 #118
The Bush Family Evil Empire is up to their elbows in this spiderpig Nov 2015 #113
I understand. marym625 Nov 2015 #119
Better yet give them a gun and send them to Syria! B Calm Nov 2015 #124
they would weasel out of it, somehow marym625 Nov 2015 #127
It is past time but not too late to prosecute those that lied us into war. PufPuf23 Nov 2015 #125
and now that they're setting it up for more boots on the ground, marym625 Nov 2015 #128
As Cold Case (my fav TV show ever) makes clear, there is no Statute KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #188
Oh hell yes. All of them. Regardless of party n/t Catherina Nov 2015 #126
absolutely regardless of party marym625 Nov 2015 #129
No More Bushes Ever! libodem Nov 2015 #136
Love that graphic. Yes, no more Bushes, ever. marym625 Nov 2015 #145
Past time. daleanime Nov 2015 #142
long passed time. But never too late. Not as long as they're alive. marym625 Nov 2015 #146
It would be better if they were alive..... daleanime Nov 2015 #148
absolutely. 100% agree. marym625 Nov 2015 #149
Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld should be in prison awaiting execution... IHateTheGOP Nov 2015 #144
definitely in prison for life. marym625 Nov 2015 #147
While we're at it, can we also.... EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #150
somewhere in this thread, I talk about that marym625 Nov 2015 #152
It's just pathetic at this point EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #158
It's by design marym625 Nov 2015 #161
My anger EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #173
I understand that. marym625 Nov 2015 #174
Kissinger (HRC's BFF) first! - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #189
Yes, ma'am! We do. merrily Nov 2015 #151
Thank you! marym625 Nov 2015 #153
K & R! SoapBox Nov 2015 #155
Thank you,Soapbox. marym625 Nov 2015 #156
The first step towards peace madokie Nov 2015 #160
We do owe it to them. marym625 Nov 2015 #163
sure it is madokie Nov 2015 #164
it's sickening. n/t marym625 Nov 2015 #165
Should we prosecute Bernie too? NobodyHere Nov 2015 #168
he voted to keep our troops safe. marym625 Nov 2015 #169
And to care for them upon their return n/t deutsey Nov 2015 #183
k & freaking r! n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2015 #180
Thank you! haven't seen you in a while marym625 Nov 2015 #185
and thank you... wildbilln864 Nov 2015 #193
I am, Thank you. And you? marym625 Nov 2015 #195
great! thanks. n/t wildbilln864 Nov 2015 #198
K&R, but I don't believe it will ever happen deutsey Nov 2015 #182
I think if we fight hard enough, we can make it happen. marym625 Nov 2015 #186
Kick for the only way it's going to happen. Octafish Nov 2015 #194
Action! Letters to editors, calling our reps, but real protest marym625 Nov 2015 #196
The media right now are frothing at the mouth for war. Octafish Nov 2015 #197
yeah, and to see what we're seeing here, this week especially, marym625 Nov 2015 #199
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