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Showing Original Post only (View all)What to do re: ISIS? How about this? Get our US Military OUT of ME countries, period. [View all]
By now it's a patently bullshit argument that "if we don't fight them over there, we'll have to fight
them in our precious Homeland" ... Like this ^ is some kind of sensible solution to end the bloodshed
and violence that threatens to engulf more people every day.
It's not the solution, it's the fucking problem.
Like Bill Mayer said on his show last night, with panelists Dylan Rattigan, Michael Steel, & Jay Leno ..
"What a concept: How about we just stay out of Muslim lands?"
Let the ME nations deal with their own terrorist assholes, they have armies, and could crush ISIS in
1 week if the US would just stop throwing more gasoline on the ME firestorms of death & misery,
with bombings, drones, and now boots in Syria, all of which simply keeps the cycle of violence and
revenge-seeking going.
If we get attacked on US soil, so be it. Deal with THAT, smartly & preemptively, as a criminal act
invoking swift & deliberate justice. This is what we do already, like with the Boston bombing, et. al.
as well we need to, but let's stop pretending like we can go over there and "kick ass" .. like Bill
Mayer said in the above interview, we know damn well that if we "go after ISIS with boots on ground"
that they will immediately "melt back into the civilian population just like they did in Iraq and
Afghanistan .. "
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What to do re: ISIS? How about this? Get our US Military OUT of ME countries, period. [View all]
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
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It Is Increasingly Clear That HRC Must Withdraw From The 2016 Election For Her Role As A Neocon
cantbeserious
Nov 2015
#1
HRC Voted For The Neocon Dream Of Exporting Democracy - She Is Accountable For ISIS
cantbeserious
Nov 2015
#4
Sanders Voted To Supply Troops That Were Placed In Harms Way By The Likes Of HRC
cantbeserious
Nov 2015
#12
Exactly. I honestly don't see how any Democrat can prefer the warhawk Hillary
Fast Walker 52
Nov 2015
#95
Serious Is As Serious Does - HRC Is Complicit As A Neocon - When Will She Take Responsibility
cantbeserious
Nov 2015
#47
HRC Voted For The Neocon Dream Of Exporting Democracy - She Is Accountable For ISIS
cantbeserious
Nov 2015
#56
Ad Hominem Attacks Are Against DU Rules - Clearly One Is Unable To Face Reality
cantbeserious
Nov 2015
#9
HRC - Another Neocon Version Of Dubya - Different Stripes - Same Corporate Backers
cantbeserious
Nov 2015
#16
So Sorry That One Is Having Vision Trouble Today - Maybe A Trip To The Ophthalmologist Is In Order
cantbeserious
Nov 2015
#60
Yeah,...they claim they'll be flying their flag over the White House.....
Spitfire of ATJ
Nov 2015
#103
We're flying planes right now. So how would affect the calculus on the ground? nt
geek tragedy
Nov 2015
#151
There has already been an attempt on US soil, just as with France, they were attacked on their soil,
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#18
If we don't stop killing their sons, daughters, mothers and fathers, friends and families,
bvar22
Nov 2015
#24
Explain in a competent method how we should sit down with this bunch of terrorists and say
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#40
"If we don't stop killing their sons, daughters, mothers and fathers, friends and families"
EX500rider
Nov 2015
#111
And that's what motivated a bunch of Saudi murder's in Afghanistan? Unlikely. They hate Iraqi Shia
EX500rider
Nov 2015
#139
And Sunni terrorists in Afghanistan couldn't care less about dead Shia Iraqi's.
EX500rider
Nov 2015
#142
I forgot, what did the religious group on the mointain to deserve getting attacked and the women
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#83
Exactly, they do not need a reason, al-Qaeda did not have a reason to attack on 9/11, hate yes they
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#137
Killing innocent ME people fuels revenge-seeking. It's pretty simple really.
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#46
A religious group on a mountain in Iraq did not attack and kill any member of ISIS.
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#84
Yes, there are 25,000 ISIS armed murderers & rapists on-the-loose in the ME
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#87
For a while this group has only been in the middle east, now in France for a second eave, an attempt
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#91
All the more reason to tell our allies they should spend some of that oil wealth on a task force....
Spitfire of ATJ
Nov 2015
#104
It is true ISIS is a problem for the world, now they have shot down a Russian passenger plane so
Thinkingabout
Nov 2015
#106
Hint: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel, Pakistan ALL have VERY strong military forces
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#28
True. So why don't said nations USE the arms GWBush sold them, to take out ISIS? -nt-
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#168
Oh, so that's why they enslave and brutalize women and children. To get back at us.
randome
Nov 2015
#22
It's not about "reasoning" with ISIS, it's about not,continuing to fuel their recruitment campaign
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#31
How has 15 years of intense US Military intervention in ME worked out for us so far? -nt-
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#39
Does that go for the Yazidis too? Must they leave 'Muslim lands' to stop getting killed?
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2015
#30
That would presume that our leaders WANT to fix it, that this was somehow an undesired result
Hydra
Nov 2015
#124
I agree but think we should turn the richie rich neocons upside down & shake out their petrodollars
wordpix
Nov 2015
#167
Are we at "Red Alert" yet? Maybe we should "Smoke 'em out" and "Bring it on" again.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2015
#57
Oh, we have "interests" all right. They're called Exxon, Shell, BP and the US MIC. -nt-
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#71
Hunt Oil, a close friend of GW Bush, was the first into Iraq - the Kurdish region. nt.
polly7
Nov 2015
#113
Until our Country can find an alternative to oil, we will be staying there. Oil was discovered in
Waldorf
Nov 2015
#50
It's not the oil per se but the petro dollar that keeps us embroiled in the
snappyturtle
Nov 2015
#88
Yep. It's bullshit. But people still believe what their TV tells them. Including Fox News.
GoneFishin
Nov 2015
#79
My point was, do you really think, even if the US left them completely alone, they would stop?
Oneironaut
Nov 2015
#138
So you want to continue wasting American lives fighting an endless war? Myself I
B Calm
Nov 2015
#132
You make some good points re: "A Middle East fully engulfed in war would be an unmitigated disaster"
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#107
But good luck trying to point that out, without getting called a "dreamer" and an "idiot"
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#109
My very first sentence of last post: " I'm not saying to completely disengage or isolate"
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#121
We have as limited of a role in the ME as we've had since 9/11 occurred.
Drunken Irishman
Nov 2015
#129
I agree. It's not a solution exactly, but it's what we are left with, thanks to GWB
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#122