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tularetom

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31. Regardless of whether or not they were the result of meet and confer

Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:14 PM

Jun 2012

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they are still loopholes. The public was not aware that a public employee could in fact save his retirement and sick leave until he cashed it out in his last year of employment thus (in come cases) doubling his salary in that final year and in effect doubling his monthly retirement allowance.

I doubt if the city councils and county supervisors who approved the new retirement formulas were aware of it either.

You should read this article - this is the kind of thing that pisses people off. And it pisses me off too because it represents what public employment used to be and how it has changed.

http://taxdollars.ocregister.com/2011/11/02/100k-pension-club-soars-99-in-two-years/123353/

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All precincts counted: San Jose passes pension reform [View all] kelly1mm Jun 2012 OP

Sorry, put in wrong link. Correct link now. nt kelly1mm Jun 2012 #1

divide them and let them kill each other rurallib Jun 2012 #2

+1 HiPointDem Jun 2012 #25

I work for a local government and we had the same situation. I am in the SEIU and we had a upaloopa Jun 2012 #3

That is what I am afraid is the current reality. Politically, do you believe it is time to end kelly1mm Jun 2012 #5

We should fight for union representation for all of us and them bargain for better retirement plans. upaloopa Jun 2012 #8

Thank's for the reply. Was there any consensus on why the President did not put kelly1mm Jun 2012 #10

The average public employee in CA draws a pension of about $2k per month tularetom Jun 2012 #4

Maybe a inflation adjusted pension cap? What should it be? $2000 per month may be fine in Fresno kelly1mm Jun 2012 #6

I'm all for a cap. But it should not be that low. tularetom Jun 2012 #19

I wish you could provide the evidence of what you speak. upaloopa Jun 2012 #7

There certainly are "loopholes" tularetom Jun 2012 #15

Yes I have heard of it. I am a public sector employee. upaloopa Jun 2012 #23

Regardless of whether or not they were the result of meet and confer tularetom Jun 2012 #31

You should check out your claims -- they're false as far as the cops are concerned Mairead Jun 2012 #21

I am talking about the firefighters and sheriff deputies that work for our county. upaloopa Jun 2012 #24

What you *said* was "police". Mairead Jun 2012 #33

no, "reforms" will be targeted at the rank-&-file. the corrupt will continue to earn the fruits of HiPointDem Jun 2012 #26

Yet the politicians get huge pensions and generous health benefits, too. Zalatix Jun 2012 #32

In the long run, I believe defined benefit pensions will disappear and be replaced by 401k's. badtoworse Jun 2012 #9

I agree. Should we thus continue to fight against the tide or just accept the new reality? Does kelly1mm Jun 2012 #12

I would negotiate for the best 401k deal I could get badtoworse Jun 2012 #16

what is the "broader" cause? HiPointDem Jun 2012 #28

And how much $$$$ will these "fiscally responsible" jaggoffs Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #11

Instead of punishing fellow workers, they should be striking for better benefits. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #13

I've been saying the same thing Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #17

this is the definition of asshole leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #14

And if someone touched their retirements, they'd be all: Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #18

actually, the definition of asshole is elsewhere. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #29

Too many of them "others" work as public employees. When times were great and the private sector nanabugg Jun 2012 #20

Police and fireman's pensions were the one they were trying to rein in and the public demosincebirth Jun 2012 #22

police & fire are public sector. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #30

Public Safety demosincebirth Jun 2012 #39

Public sector employees should just walk off and paralyze the government. Zalatix Jun 2012 #27

Someday we can nearly all be poor together! quaker bill Jun 2012 #34

Why does a congressman who serves two years get a pension??? adigal Jun 2012 #35

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others n/t deutsey Jun 2012 #37

San Jose pension obligations are 20% of the budget!?!?! taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #36

They get a MEASLEY 2,000 a month and the people in this country act like thats alot of money bigdarryl Jun 2012 #38