Obama clearly ran to the left of Hillary, but governed like the Second Clinton. For the life of me, (Reply #92)

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92. Obama clearly ran to the left of Hillary, but governed like the Second Clinton. For the life of me,

I'll never understand the New Democrats' Party. What are they so affraid of that they run to they immediately abandon core Democratic values and govern right of center. Then we just accept that Democrats don't vote as a given. Republicans don't have this problem. For worse or worser, they follow through on all of their awful promises. And the Democratic Party just tags along.

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More and more likely: A third-party "real Republican" candidate for president. [View all]	Hortensis	May 2016	OP
Great. I hope every one who ran for POTUS this time starts his or her own party.	merrily	May 2016	#1
If only the Democratic Party	vt_native	May 2016	#2
This message was self-deleted by its author	rjsquirrel	May 2016	#3
Your comment is unwarranted and disgusting.	ViseGrip	May 2016	#33
Your comment is unwarranted and disgusting.	stonecutter357	May 2016	#52
Strong women are generally considered less "likable." It's a thing with some men. n/t	pnwmom	May 2016	#58
She's less likeable because she's less trustworthy...	tex-wyo-dem	May 2016	#78
That's just the perception with Hillary. Fact checkers say she's one of the more truthful.	pnwmom	May 2016	#80
That's a good one...you're funny!	tex-wyo-dem	May 2016	#82
www.politifact.com	pnwmom	May 2016	#83
What she says, and what she really means are two...	tex-wyo-dem	May 2016	#87
The limousine liberal world.	Katashi_itto	May 2016	#55
This message was self-deleted by its author	Esse Quam Videri	May 2016	#4
Are you available to be drafted as the Democratic Party's real Democrat?	1StrongBlackMan	May 2016	#7
We already did.	IamMab	May 2016	#15
Ah, the "no true scotsmans" argument	FLPanhandle	May 2016	#26
You know that your statement runs counter to all Democratic values, right? A majority	Squinch	May 2016	#35
DINOs are easy to run when you have corporate backers.	Katashi_itto	May 2016	#56
Um, no. It's that not enough people like your candidate. By a factor of multiple millions.	Squinch	May 2016	#61
Gosh, he did. Looks like the country will be in for a shitty four years. But hey your corporate	Katashi_itto	May 2016	#64
Does it mean you are going to go away?	Squinch	May 2016	#65
No	Katashi_itto	May 2016	#66
You mean you aren't going to do a GBCW thread and leave DU in a flurry of fury at the oligarchs?	Squinch	May 2016	#67
Honestly why don't you give some thought to these limp wristed comebacks.	Katashi_itto	May 2016	#68
Limp wristed, huh? And of course you don't see it as a victory. That's because you lost.	Squinch	May 2016	#69
God more mouth breathing?	Katashi_itto	May 2016	#71
The end game is clear	Egnever	May 2016	#72
Yup.	La Lioness Priyanka	May 2016	#75
I think they are in the minority of BS supporters, but they certainly are obnoxious.	Squinch	May 2016	#88
I thought Bernie out raised and out spent Hillary	La Lioness Priyanka	May 2016	#74
Corporate backers do not mean just money.	Katashi_itto	May 2016	#76
News Flash! Dems don't want Bernie period! They want a Democrat.	leftofcool	May 2016	#81
Well, that lets Hillary out.	Katashi_itto	May 2016	#85
Obama clearly ran to the left of Hillary, but governed like the Second Clinton. For the life of me,	WhaTHellsgoingonhere	May 2016	#92
I could see them doing that. I think at this point they are fighting to	sufrommich	May 2016	#5
Yup! Here are the 10 top names on #NeverTrump list.	Hortensis	May 2016	#11
I figured Romney, but Paul is an interesting choice.	thesquanderer	May 2016	#20
Maybe it depends on who they want to pull more votes from.	thesquanderer	May 2016	#23
Could that be an asset in these angry days? Even	Hortensis	May 2016	#37
They want to run a strong candidate with a chance of beating Clinton and Trump. The OP is wrong.	JimDandy	May 2016	#60
Other people they could put up...	thesquanderer	May 2016	#24
Add Scott Walker	malaise	May 2016	#62
I didn't remember that Johnson was the libertarian candidate. That could have legs.	thesquanderer	May 2016	#91
Nope. Not going to happen.	vi5	May 2016	#6
Vi5, it IS happening. Google "third party run"	Hortensis	May 2016	#9
It's 6 months away.....	vi5	May 2016	#10
Remember, they don't have to get on all state ballots	Hortensis	May 2016	#12
"govern from the center"	vi5	May 2016	#13
I enjoyed the worry about "increasingly powerful left wing."	Hortensis	May 2016	#16
Forgot to mention, I'll be happy if you're right. :)	Hortensis	May 2016	#32
I think the calculation is going on now	gratuitous	May 2016	#36
People as disparate as Bill Kristol and Eric Erickson	Hortensis	May 2016	#8
Yes. All they need to do is find a candidate who can throw it to the house, no need to win outright.	thesquanderer	May 2016	#21
THIS!!!!!!	hamsterjill	May 2016	#25
Texas, Florida...	thesquanderer	May 2016	#30
Paul Ryan	hamsterjill	May 2016	#34
Speaking of libertarians: The Libertarian PARTY	Hortensis	May 2016	#51
That's one of 2 "all"s, though. The other is	Hortensis	May 2016	#31
I don't see how they could possibly pull it off.	Midwestern Democrat	May 2016	#48
It's not specifically about the swing states, it's also about the blue-ish ones.	thesquanderer	May 2016	#57
I don't think anyone is going to take that chance.	Nitram	May 2016	#14
You don't believe they can prevent Trump from	Hortensis	May 2016	#17
No Hortensis, that is not what I said. I said that a third party conservative candidate	Nitram	May 2016	#18
Oh, sorry. Sure. A symbolic run could be paid for	Hortensis	May 2016	#19
Ahh no, it doesn't work that way.	former9thward	May 2016	#38
Um, dark money ads can generate a lot of donations.	Hortensis	May 2016	#39
No, other candidates can't.	former9thward	May 2016	#42
True, forgot that important little limitation.	Hortensis	May 2016	#43
It's a complex political calculus	Algernon Moncrieff	May 2016	#46
I've never even heard of Ben Sasse. And I'm a political junkie.	KamaAina	May 2016	#22
Me either, but apparently he's very well regarded	Hortensis	May 2016	#28
Young, very conservative Senator from Nebraska	Algernon Moncrieff	May 2016	#47
I will believe it when someone declares their intention to run.	Agnosticsherbet	May 2016	#27
what a crazy year	oldandhappy	May 2016	#29
I think I'd be really afraid to fall asleep again!	Hortensis	May 2016	#53
Who would it be? The republicans themselves didn't seem to like any of the "real" republicans that	hughee99	May 2016	#40
Just saw this on Twitter	octoberlib	May 2016	#41
This begs the question	Egnever	May 2016	#44
Good point. But what if it was a very high-road campaign,	Hortensis	May 2016	#49
I think this is the scenario they would be shooting for.	Egnever	May 2016	#73
they didn't care to save the nation from Dubya	Skittles	May 2016	#45
Didn't save from? Didn't they ELECT that buffoon twice?	Hortensis	May 2016	#50
I think it would be interesting if they do... Many have said, if there are 2 Pub candidates in the	glowing	May 2016	#54
I'll bet you.....	sendero	May 2016	#59
Can they set the rules for the convention still, have delegates free to vote any way they want?	L. Coyote	May 2016	#63
If that happens, hopefully that candidate will eat into Trump's votes	GOPblows431	May 2016	#70
split their vote all the way to the polls and a democratic win!	Demonaut	May 2016	#77
There is a frightening scenario in that.	Egnever	May 2016	#79
Ben Sasse has rejected Running as a 3rd Party Presidential Candidate.	Feathery Scout	May 2016	#84
If fRump got most of the gop vote in primaries, why would those voters change?	lindysalsagal	May 2016	#86
my understanding is that it is too late to get on a lot of ballots	dembotoz	May 2016	#89
Not Likely, Republicans Know This Would Hand Democrat's The Election	Corey_Baker08	May 2016	#90

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