Surprise! I found even more facts about Libya under Gaddafi that you probably did not know about !

[DetlefK]

24. I don't give a flying fuck about "truth". I only care about verifiable facts.

1. Do you want Iraq and Libya to return to Gaddafi- and Saddam-style dictatorships? Yes or No?

2. I will not defend the way GWB waged war on Iraq. However, I will defend that freedom is better than tyranny.

3. Just because the US is a fucked-up pseudo-democratic oligarchy, that doesn't mean other countries have similar problems with democracy. You US-Americans do that all the time: You project your prejudices and your stances and your problems on the rest of the world.
How do I know this?
Because you left-wing US-Americans use the same talking-points you use to rage against the political establishment of the US to rage against the EU, even though these are radically different entities.

4. Al-Qaeda was brought into this discussion because another poster said that GWB created ISIS. Yes he did. But even if the 2nd Gulf-war had not happened, Syria would have descended into civil war anyways, because THAT war was caused by global warming, droughts and fears of famine. So, even in that alternate scenario we would have a syrian civil war with islamic extremists: Al Qaeda.