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In reply to the discussion: Surprise! I found even more facts about Libya under Gaddafi that you probably did not know about ! [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)27. An affinity for 'strict father' authoritarianism - it's not just for conservatives anymore.
In the strict father family, father knows best. He knows right from wrong and has the ultimate authority to make sure his children and his spouse do what he says, which is taken to be what is right. Many conservative spouses accept this worldview, uphold the fathers authority, and are strict in those realms of family life that they are in charge of. When his children disobey, it is his moral duty to punish them painfully enough so that, to avoid punishment, they will obey him (do what is right) and not just do what feels good.
The strict father logic extends further. The basic idea is that authority is justified by morality (the strict father version), and that, in a well-ordered world, there should be (and traditionally has been) a moral hierarchy in which those who have traditionally dominated should dominate. The hierarchy is: God above Man, Man above Nature, The Disciplined (Strong) above the Undisciplined (Weak), The Rich above the Poor, Employers above Employees, Adults above Children, Western culture above other cultures, Our Country above other countries. The hierarchy extends to: Men above women, Whites above Non-whites, Christians above non-Christians, Straights above Gays.
Pragmatic conservatives, on the other hand, may not have a religious orientation at all. Instead, they may care primarily about their own personal authority, not the authority of the church or Christ, or God. They want to be strict fathers in their own domains, with authority primarily over their own lives. Thus, a young, unmarried conservative male or female may want to have sex without worrying about marriage. They may need access to contraception, advice about sexually transmitted diseases, information about cervical cancer, and so on. And if a girl or woman becomes pregnant and there is no possibility or desire for marriage, abortion may be necessary. Trump is a pragmatic conservative, par excellence. And he knows that there are a lot of Republican voters who are like him in their pragmatism.
There are at least tens of millions of conservatives in America who share strict father morality and its moral hierarchy. Many of them are poor or middle class and many are white men who see themselves as superior to immigrants, non-whites, women, non-Christians, gays and people who rely on public assistance. In other words, they are what liberals would call bigots.
http://yonside.com/why-is-trump-winning
For too many, Gaddafi was a 'strict father' who know best what is good for us and will punish us if we don't listen.
The strict father logic extends further. The basic idea is that authority is justified by morality (the strict father version), and that, in a well-ordered world, there should be (and traditionally has been) a moral hierarchy in which those who have traditionally dominated should dominate. The hierarchy is: God above Man, Man above Nature, The Disciplined (Strong) above the Undisciplined (Weak), The Rich above the Poor, Employers above Employees, Adults above Children, Western culture above other cultures, Our Country above other countries. The hierarchy extends to: Men above women, Whites above Non-whites, Christians above non-Christians, Straights above Gays.
Pragmatic conservatives, on the other hand, may not have a religious orientation at all. Instead, they may care primarily about their own personal authority, not the authority of the church or Christ, or God. They want to be strict fathers in their own domains, with authority primarily over their own lives. Thus, a young, unmarried conservative male or female may want to have sex without worrying about marriage. They may need access to contraception, advice about sexually transmitted diseases, information about cervical cancer, and so on. And if a girl or woman becomes pregnant and there is no possibility or desire for marriage, abortion may be necessary. Trump is a pragmatic conservative, par excellence. And he knows that there are a lot of Republican voters who are like him in their pragmatism.
There are at least tens of millions of conservatives in America who share strict father morality and its moral hierarchy. Many of them are poor or middle class and many are white men who see themselves as superior to immigrants, non-whites, women, non-Christians, gays and people who rely on public assistance. In other words, they are what liberals would call bigots.
http://yonside.com/why-is-trump-winning
For too many, Gaddafi was a 'strict father' who know best what is good for us and will punish us if we don't listen.
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Surprise! I found even more facts about Libya under Gaddafi that you probably did not know about ! [View all]
DetlefK
May 2016
OP
He was a racist, a brutal tyrant and a supporter of international terrorism and assassinations.
DetlefK
May 2016
#3
Do you wish Gaddafi was still in power? Yes or No? How about the Taliban and Saddam Hussein?
DetlefK
May 2016
#7
If Gaddafi were still in power, there wouldn't even be the OPPORTUNITY for democracy.
DetlefK
May 2016
#16
One of the more interesting stories is Libya financing an African telecom satellite.
Jesus Malverde
May 2016
#34
I was the poster of that other OP that turned into a honey trap of sorts for folks like you.
PufPuf23
May 2016
#40
Using your standard on your own argument isn't "off-topic," but such tactics probably work on Reddit
IamMab
May 2016
#42
"No engangement" From the person replying entirely through titles. ROFL #moreprojection
IamMab
May 2016
#46