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Darb

(2,807 posts)
34. I think you misunderstood. Allow me to explain.
Thu Jun 16, 2016, 01:42 PM
Jun 2016

Anyone who delays, and obfuscates, and publicly obstructs the sensible implementation of more gun control in the US, has bloody hands. My having hunting guns from a distant past does not make my hands bloody. I would give them up if the law said to, straight away without a fuss.

I don't even advocate for an end to hunting, or sporting, or self defense. Some weapons have got to go and all guns should be harder to get a hold of. But that is not what this is about. As I said before. when I was a hunter, or a trap shooter, things were different. None of us had weapons like ARs. Didn't want them. they weren't even really in our mindset as to something that we needed. We didn't need them. A deer rifle was bolt action, or pump. Rarely semi-auto, they jammed. That was all back when I was a kid or a young man, No longer, not even sporting activities.

It is today's attitudes that I push back against. All the "right to keep and bear arms" balderdash, it doesn't just say that. Those that defend the right to have an AR or an AK with a banana have blood on their hands and there is more to come. If I were advocating against the restriction of the one common denominator of all these shootings, the semi-auto rifle or pistol with high capacity mag, then my hands would be bloody as hell. They are not.

Apples and oranges.

Any comments on record from Stoner himself? Marengo Jun 2016 #1
Apparently they're putting words in his mouth. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #2
Probably. But, it was designed as a military weapon to use NATO's 7.62mm round. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #5
So are you saying his own family doesn't represent him? scscholar Jun 2016 #29
They can say whatever they please, but it carries little authority if unsubstantiated... Marengo Jun 2016 #30
The gas system isn't an advantage over the piston driven AK. ileus Jun 2016 #3
Less moving parts. Just sayin'. linuxman Jun 2016 #10
Oblivious? Dem2 Jun 2016 #15
Dude invented more weapons than Kalashnikov. malthaussen Jun 2016 #4
do worry, the gun nuts will accuse Stoners family of "selling out" Javaman Jun 2016 #6
Even more predictable are the irrational emotional responses from the gun grabbers. Bonx Jun 2016 #8
gun grabbers? nt Javaman Jun 2016 #9
gun nuts? nt Bonx Jun 2016 #12
oh I see. Javaman Jun 2016 #14
You're welcome. Bonx Jun 2016 #19
+1 n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #26
And that will earn you an ignore Dem2 Jun 2016 #16
Gun grabbers are rude and ignorant. Bonx Jun 2016 #20
+1 phazed0 Jun 2016 #24
I have no grabbers or nuts on ignore. ileus Jun 2016 #25
Me either. Bonx Jun 2016 #35
Red hands club. Darb Jun 2016 #28
Of which you are a member as I recall. Marengo Jun 2016 #31
Uh, no. Darb Jun 2016 #32
By your own admission you are part of the problem... Marengo Jun 2016 #33
I think you misunderstood. Allow me to explain. Darb Jun 2016 #34
It seems I did misunderstand. I interpreted what you wrote as an agreement... Marengo Jun 2016 #36
That didn't work out so well, did it? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #7
The rifle Crepuscular Jun 2016 #11
It's not a clip, it's a magazine! Major Nikon Jun 2016 #17
Predictably Crepuscular Jun 2016 #18
You stole my line! Major Nikon Jun 2016 #21
Correction. Straw Man Jun 2016 #37
I'm pretty sure I called it stupid gunnut nonsense, you can call it whatever you like Major Nikon Jun 2016 #38
You can blather all you want. Straw Man Jun 2016 #39
You stole my line! Major Nikon Jun 2016 #40
Do you make those graphics? Straw Man Jun 2016 #41
Did you make up your own talking points? Major Nikon Jun 2016 #42
Look! A pasted graphic! Straw Man Jun 2016 #45
... Major Nikon Jun 2016 #46
GIFs -- the Internet's alternative to thinking. Straw Man Jun 2016 #47
OK Major Nikon Jun 2016 #48
I rest my case. Straw Man Jun 2016 #49
It wasn't yours to begin with Major Nikon Jun 2016 #50
The topic was your childish GIFs and graphics. Straw Man Jun 2016 #51
True, the part that made the least sense was yours, which was a pretty good trick Major Nikon Jun 2016 #53
The Major enters the thread with nothing to say ... Straw Man Jun 2016 #55
...and you rested your case and here you still are Major Nikon Jun 2016 #56
Ah, finally, the real reason you're here. Straw Man Jun 2016 #58
Nothing gets by you, does it? Major Nikon Jun 2016 #59
This device was DESIGNED to kill a lot of humans efficiently, this guy knows it uponit7771 Jun 2016 #13
Really. If it's designed for military combat use, Amimnoch Jun 2016 #22
You mean that these firearms should be banned? oneshooter Jun 2016 #44
Careful, you'll be accused of posting "gun porn"! Just reading posts Jun 2016 #54
Beyond me that we can't outlaw military weapons. Makes no sense at all. George Eliot Jun 2016 #23
Oh dear! Look at all the hurt fee fees! Rex Jun 2016 #27
I see the selfish MF'ers are out in force. cpwm17 Jun 2016 #43
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #52
It is amazing... deathrind Jun 2016 #57
K & R! HuckleB Jun 2016 #60
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