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79. Precisely

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 07:42 PM

Jun 2016

Bonds issued by the US Treasury are seen the world over as the safest investment security. The worldwide standard for the "Risk Free Security" is in fact, the Ten Year Note.

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Neoliberalism Will Soon Force Americans to Leave the United States [View all] marmar Jun 2016 OP

Many of us have already been driven out of Manhattan and SF. Why not sell the whole damn country? leveymg Jun 2016 #1

The country is being sold piece by piece. The enormous debt we owe China and Saudi Arabia rhett o rick Jun 2016 #5

You know, the idea that we "owe" money to China or anyone else is a misnomer. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #23

Not talking about sovereign debt. It's the export of jobs and the securitization of real estate leveymg Jun 2016 #45

Yes we do "owe" money to China and others. That's what selling bonds means. A Simple Game Jun 2016 #59

And China is free to sell those bonds on the open market. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #74

And in fact the demand of China and Japan for US Treasury bonds is a good thing JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #76

Precisely A HERETIC I AM Jun 2016 #79

Yet here I am doubting the will of the American Government to repay it's debt to the A Simple Game Jun 2016 #87

WTF greiner3 Jun 2016 #66

And its happening in Portland OR right now. KPN Jun 2016 #18

Sadly PasadenaTrudy Jun 2016 #39

It absoultely is - Real estate is getting nutty out here. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #77

Investors from China and Developers Have Ruined Our City McKim Jun 2016 #120

Same here in Silicon Valley elljay Jun 2016 #136

Canada, New Zealand and Australia Aerows Jun 2016 #2

There will be nowhere to hide notadmblnd Jun 2016 #4

Well, that was what Kissinger advocated. Aerows Jun 2016 #8

Yes, I understand she admires him greatly notadmblnd Jun 2016 #9

If that doesn't raise an eyebrow Aerows Jun 2016 #10

For those whos heads are not turned by her celebrity- it does. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #12

Getting lots of money from a campaign Aerows Jun 2016 #13

Sadly, here at DU it also raises alerts. Jackilope Jun 2016 #16

Our country is going to rue the day Aerows Jun 2016 #21

It is like watching a trainwreck. We are sheep being led to the slaughterhouse. Jackilope Jun 2016 #35

We are sheep caught in a trainwreck that was headed for the slaughterhouse. leveymg Jun 2016 #46

Bet on it. 840high Jun 2016 #110

Agreed!!!! CrawlingChaos Jun 2016 #92

Years ago I read that Kissinger was the first Jew admitted to Chevy Chase appalachiablue Jun 2016 #80

He married non-Jews elljay Jun 2016 #138

Knew he was in those circles; I'd never heard the phrase a Court Jew. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #141

Incredible, 500,000 people. Delaware's population is around 820,000, appalachiablue Jun 2016 #42

Indeed he did. Aerows Jun 2016 #43

useless eaters shanti Jun 2016 #47

Obvious who the Truly useless eaters and breathers are. eom LarryNM Jun 2016 #67

I think it was 500 million, not thousand AntiBank Jun 2016 #68

That sounds more likely, though still awful for the surplus billions of people on earth. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #73

"...at least until all valuables are stripped by predators." CrispyQ Jun 2016 #127

Don't we know it! appalachiablue Jun 2016 #139

There is no place to hide for the world's 99% probably the 99.9%. They rhett o rick Jun 2016 #14

The 1% will be quite willing and happy to give us jobs lunatica Jun 2016 #28

Well the problem with capitalism and it might be funny if not sad, is that after they take all our rhett o rick Jun 2016 #29

Well, there's that too lunatica Jun 2016 #34

or smoke enough weed. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #124

Yep, thin the herd! KPN Jun 2016 #19

This. I am convinced this is what is happening and will keep on happening. LiberalLoner Jun 2016 #50

That's a lot of real estate for half a million people and their robots to keep up, just saying'. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #69

it was 500 million not 500 thousand and it is the Geoegia Guidestones AntiBank Jun 2016 #91

fake quote popular among conspiracy theorists uhnope Jun 2016 #131

The all have strict immigration laws WhiteTara Jun 2016 #6

Yes. On my list. Aerows Jun 2016 #7

$600,000 to be more accurate. And it's a security deposit in exchange for KPN Jun 2016 #20

I've looked at Belize, Costa Rico, Guatamala and Ecuador WhiteTara Jun 2016 #27

Yeah, we're still here too ... KPN Jun 2016 #52

What about Zika virus in the southern hemisphere, and the US too appalachiablue Jun 2016 #75

time to harvest pregnancies and grow the fetus in labs to assure good health swhisper1 Jun 2016 #82

Maybe we could just find a vaccine.. whathehell Jun 2016 #116

sorry, I am writing a scifi book,but as a woman, it is easier on the body swhisper1 Jun 2016 #117

I'm a woman as well, so I can appreciate that aspect of it whathehell Jun 2016 #118

I am not a mosquito magnet WhiteTara Jun 2016 #93

What about marriage? notadmblnd Jun 2016 #38

There's that too I guess. My spouse and I are already married to one another though. KPN Jun 2016 #54

marriage has become a farce, best contract every year, since its a mans world, let him swhisper1 Jun 2016 #84

Ecuador is good Warpy Jun 2016 #53

So have you spent time in Ecuador and Uruguay? KPN Jun 2016 #55

Only on Google Warpy Jun 2016 #60

Well, here's hoping you return to good health if you haven't already. KPN Jun 2016 #142

I Have Spent Months in Uruguay Over the Years McKim Jun 2016 #121

Good to know. Have never been there. KPN Jun 2016 #143

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At the risk of being blunt Aerows Jun 2016 #103

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Luckily Aerows Jun 2016 #106

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And go where? The2ndWheel Jun 2016 #3

A world war is coming. roamer65 Jun 2016 #11

The next war will be via the internet or equivalent. Corporations will fight each rhett o rick Jun 2016 #17

Unless you live in the sticks Aerows Jun 2016 #33

I would like to discuss this farther. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #123

I'd be interested in a thread on this topic. CrispyQ Jun 2016 #128

Clearly since we are having this discussion in the first place Aerows Jun 2016 #145

I agree. All signs point to this. KPN Jun 2016 #22

A bit of unasked for advice... Peacetrain Jun 2016 #15

Yep. Be wary! KPN Jun 2016 #24

Luck of the genetic lottery Aerows Jun 2016 #26

Where we gonna go? Octafish Jun 2016 #25

I got my eye on Uruguay. JEB Jun 2016 #30

My French is up to date. Aerows Jun 2016 #32

It's true. nt zentrum Jun 2016 #31

To where? PasadenaTrudy Jun 2016 #36

Hot humid country? You ever been to the State of Georgia in the summer? YOHABLO Jun 2016 #86

NO! lol PasadenaTrudy Jun 2016 #94

Neo liberalism is a destructive path felix_numinous Jun 2016 #37

+1 Yuge intervention and Big Tawk. We need a mega Marshall Plan appalachiablue Jun 2016 #71

Interesting. fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #40

Already Gone. nt truebluegreen Jun 2016 #41

Leave and go where? Helen Borg Jun 2016 #44

We loved our short time in . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #48

Whia Johnny2X2X Jun 2016 #49

People are talking about their actual lives, not the artificial abstractions of statisticians. earthshine Jun 2016 #56

inconvenient truth, you speak. See my post at end of thread nt uhnope Jun 2016 #130

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To get a retirement visa in Thailand requires only a monthly income of $2K per month or Just reading posts Jun 2016 #61

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The point is that a dollar goes much further there. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #63

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A "colonialist"? Really? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #88

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Please explain exactly how someone retiring in Thailand is "colonizing" them. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #90

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If we can't agree on common definitions, what's the point of discussion? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #99

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Thank you, that's very gracious of you. Something of a rarity in interneet discussions! Just reading posts Jun 2016 #132

Thank you rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #133

Extensive kjones Jun 2016 #137

There's something of a difference between an oil sheik and a middle class retiree. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #135

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Hm....still disagree. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #144

I have a good life here in Thailand, Paka Jun 2016 #112

If I were to retire in Thailand (which is very unlikely), I would have a steady income of $45K/year. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #113

You can indeed live well on 45k US a year. Paka Jun 2016 #115

You don't want people in the US who use words like neoliberalism??? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #78

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Yeah, I agree. Let's just call it "capitalism" then........ socialist_n_TN Jun 2016 #97

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IKR? Hydra Jun 2016 #109

That is what they want. Niles Ferguson actually put it in one of his applegrove Jun 2016 #57

Can't stand him, or his programs I've seen. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #72

His WW1 book was surprisingly good (assuming we're talking about Niall) Recursion Jun 2016 #95

Many more will not be able or willing to leave. Rex Jun 2016 #58

And go where? malaise Jun 2016 #65

what sucks for me is undergroundpanther Jun 2016 #70

I'm packed and renewed my passport swhisper1 Jun 2016 #81

We'll give it our earnest consideration if Trump is elected; not otherwise. Hekate Jun 2016 #85

Actually, the fleeing has already begun ... to the Pacific Northwest ... DrBulldog Jun 2016 #100

Be Prepared to Have Good Manner and Values McKim Jun 2016 #122

What a glum lot. redstateblues Jun 2016 #105

It's a holiday in Cambodia. roamer65 Jun 2016 #107

FYI for your early-leavers ... you have to be under 55 to migrate to modern New Zealand . . . DrBulldog Jun 2016 #108

Bye Felicia tandot Jun 2016 #111

K&R avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #114

Portugal. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #125

My house is the size of a postage stamp & worth $350k. CrispyQ Jun 2016 #126

what a load of bogus codswallop. uhnope Jun 2016 #129

I can envision a brain drain Vogon_Glory Jun 2016 #134

Please go. All of you. Throd Jun 2016 #146

In fairness, when I discuss retiring in another country, it has nothing to do with politics. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #147