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Response to Meldread (Reply #37)

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 06:32 PM

47. So you're in favor of

NAFTA, TPP and the other trade deals?

Or is a one-sided deal OK if it's other nations doing it (and it leads to more integrated nations) and bad when it's the USA that is asked to do the same?

As for the EU - the "United States of Europe" will never happen. Ever. People who think it's about racism and xenophobia are missing the issues entirely. The root of the problem is that Europe is a diverse place, and trying to equalize them as strongly as the EU does just will never work. Culturally, socially, economically, financially and politically, Greece has very little in common with the UK. Countries like Germany come out ahead in the EU because their currency would otherwise be artificially high. This drives exports up, but costs countries like Greece dearly. Then the Germans feel like they are working hard and their wealth is going to lazy Greeks. On the other hand, Greeks feel like Germany is taking a huge slice of the pie, giving them a little sliver and making them dance to their tune to receive it.

Without individual fiscal policy that matches their social, economic and cultural individuality, a common currency cannot work. And neither can a common legislative body - especially one made of representatives that the people have zero vote for.


To engage in a trade war with a sovereign nation over this is just absolute idiocy. It's more dictatorial than any other action the USA has ever taken against Europe in modern times, and it ought to go against everything "real" liberals stand for.

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