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Corporate666

(587 posts)
47. So you're in favor of
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jun 2016

NAFTA, TPP and the other trade deals?

Or is a one-sided deal OK if it's other nations doing it (and it leads to more integrated nations) and bad when it's the USA that is asked to do the same?

As for the EU - the "United States of Europe" will never happen. Ever. People who think it's about racism and xenophobia are missing the issues entirely. The root of the problem is that Europe is a diverse place, and trying to equalize them as strongly as the EU does just will never work. Culturally, socially, economically, financially and politically, Greece has very little in common with the UK. Countries like Germany come out ahead in the EU because their currency would otherwise be artificially high. This drives exports up, but costs countries like Greece dearly. Then the Germans feel like they are working hard and their wealth is going to lazy Greeks. On the other hand, Greeks feel like Germany is taking a huge slice of the pie, giving them a little sliver and making them dance to their tune to receive it.

Without individual fiscal policy that matches their social, economic and cultural individuality, a common currency cannot work. And neither can a common legislative body - especially one made of representatives that the people have zero vote for.


To engage in a trade war with a sovereign nation over this is just absolute idiocy. It's more dictatorial than any other action the USA has ever taken against Europe in modern times, and it ought to go against everything "real" liberals stand for.

If Britain leaves the EU [View all] RB TexLa Jun 2016 OP
Britain is one of our deepest, closest allies metroins Jun 2016 #1
I disagree. They have a trade deal with the US right now through the EU. RB TexLa Jun 2016 #3
We can always negotiate another metroins Jun 2016 #5
I do not think we should. They want to contribute to a non-unified Europe, they can pay the price RB TexLa Jun 2016 #7
This would only hurt us metroins Jun 2016 #8
That's like saying a friendship is beneficial only because of how old it is. We will survive a RB TexLa Jun 2016 #9
5th largest gdp metroins Jun 2016 #10
Yes, but why do we want to Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #12
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Do you have any data backing this assertion? Albertoo Jun 2016 #14
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The EU had zero impact on immigration, as can easily be proven Albertoo Jun 2016 #19
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The figure for Pakistan shows your link immigration/EU is wrong Albertoo Jun 2016 #22
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Since entry in the EU, the share of European immigration in the UK DECLINED Albertoo Jun 2016 #27
"As of 2014, 790,000 people born in Poland were estimated to be resident in the UK" uppityperson Jun 2016 #23
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UK voters chose entry in the EU which stated ever closer union in its constitution preamble Albertoo Jun 2016 #28
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Why are you so personally invested? uppityperson Jun 2016 #30
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Are you out of your trees? Corporate666 Jun 2016 #34
I don't quite get.. sendero Jun 2016 #42
Well said Corporate666 Jun 2016 #48
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What is the existing trade agreement between the US and the EU? TTIP is under negotiation but pampango Jun 2016 #38
Agree completely Glorfindel Jun 2016 #4
EU is corporate run to slash wages and benefits by inducing emigration/immigration nt msongs Jun 2016 #2
What they are doing is stupid and dangerous. Meldread Jun 2016 #16
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If the EU breaks apart, Europe as we know it begins to collapse. Meldread Jun 2016 #20
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Why should countries remain together if they don't want to? Corporate666 Jun 2016 #35
My response. Meldread Jun 2016 #37
So you're in favor of Corporate666 Jun 2016 #47
Less or more favorable for us or them? Recursion Jun 2016 #17
The EU has been shooting themselves for awhile davidn3600 Jun 2016 #32
history nationalize the fed Jun 2016 #33
After bailing their asses out of two world wars, tirebiter Jun 2016 #36
Hmm let's see whatthehey Jun 2016 #44
The US 'should' treat them the same but the UK will find that their negotiating clout is diminshed pampango Jun 2016 #39
So we're actually discussing how to punish the UK for leaving the EU??? ileus Jun 2016 #40
"Do nothing" sounds good. Why must we react at all? nt bemildred Jun 2016 #41
When two good friends divorce I don't see it as my role to take sides or punish one Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #43
One little wrinkle whatthehey Jun 2016 #45
So let me get this straight. You will not trade with a country that votes to leave the EU but Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #46
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