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Enrique

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Mon Jun 11, 2012, 11:33 AM Jun 2012

Raw Story apologizes to Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill [View all]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/06/a-few-thoughts-on-glenn-greenwald-ablc-raw-story-and-the-nature-of-political-discourse/

In the years immediately following 9/11, anyone failing to march to the beat of America’s war drums — be it Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D-CA), who was the sole vote against beginning the war in Afghanistan, or the Dixie Chicks, who pronounced themselves “ashamed” that the President who started 2 wars from Texas, or even the French people, who lost their eponymous fries — was called unpatriotic, a helpmeet to (alternately), “the terrorists,” Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda and/or the Taliban, or even a traitor to this country (which has long valued the importance of political dissent, loyal and otherwise). Liberals decried the rhetoric, and talked about how it both possible to love this country, and the promise of this country, without providing unquestioning loyalty to its leaders.

So when Greenwald brought it to my attention that a Twitterer and blogger nominally associated with Raw Story (through the hosted blog Angry Black Lady Chronicles) had used that exact rhetoric to criticize Greenwald and The Nation‘s Jeremy Scahill, it was hard to do more than roll my eyes and sigh. But as the executive editor of Raw Story, I am obligated to do more than that.

So, to be clear: Raw Story Media, of which I am an employee, hosts under contract Angry Black Lady Chronicles, one of two opinion blogs hosted by but not directed by the company. Under the terms of the company’s contracts with both blogs, they have their own editorial discretion, their own direction and can bring on (and let go) of their bloggers at their own free will. Imani Gandy, the original ABLC blogger, told me that she has decided to use that discretion to ask two bloggers whose online pronouncements aren’t in keeping with and have interfered with what she sees as her editorial mission — reproductive rights and racial justice — to leave.

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To Greenwald and Scahill, whose reputations were maligned by a person who used the platform of Raw Story in ways it was not intended and with whom I personally take issue, I have privately apologized. This is my public one. It is my belief that reasonable people at every point on the political spectrum can look at the same set of facts and draw different and even sometimes equally valid conclusions about policy issues, politicians and the political system, and that those disagreements need not and should not descend into unsupportable, hyperbolic personal attacks intended to silence those with whom we disagree.



Edit: Here's AngryBlackLady's apology:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/06/the-greenwaldscahill-kerfuffle/
Politics is a blood-sport, and you never learn that more keenly than during an election year. Sometimes it’s easy to forget that we’re all human beings, no matter what we think of one another’s politics.

Sometimes rhetoric gets overheated and politics becomes personal and it’s at those moments, we need to stop and think. So, when it was brought to my attention that one of my co-bloggers, who goes by Extreme Liberal, implied on Twitter that Salon’s Glenn Greenwald and The Nation’s Jeremy Scahill work for the Taliban and al Qaeda because of their opposition to the President’s use of drones, I realized it was time to take a moment. Although I didn’t write that tweet, it wouldn’t be right for me to pretend that it’s not relevant to me, or that it’s okay to let things like that slide if it’s directed at someone I don’t like or agree with politically. That would make me a hypocrite, and I don’t want to let a personal or political differences make me — or this blog — into someone I don’t want to be.

Greenwald and I obviously have our differences and will probably continue to disagree. We are creatures of our experiences which inform our views of the world, and mine have been very different from his. Nonetheless, he deserves exactly what I want from him and everyone else who reads my work, whether they agree or disagree: to be treated like a human being.
So look, that kind of thing is not cool, people. We need to take things down a few notches from eleventy and remember that opposition is not “the enemy.” This doesn’t mean we all have to hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and pretend to be BFFs, but it does mean that we must not let politics rob us of our ethics or human decency. I truly respect the work that Jeremy Scahill has done in his career — his book Blackwater was a true eye-opener — and although Glenn Greenwald and I rarely agree about politics, (although it may surprise you that I actually do share some of his foreign policy concerns and his concerns about imperialism in the Middle East), that doesn’t mean that he’s a traitor or a terrorist. Any suggestion of such is wrong and grossly inappropriate. I don’t wish him harm. I don’t believe that he deserves to be dehumanized. And I don’t want anyone who supports me or enjoys my writing to think that I support or enjoy extreme, outrageous, or dehumanizing attacks on him or anyone because of public disagreements.

Because I absolutely mean that, I’ve asked Extreme Liberal to step down as a blogger at ABLC, and I’m writing this to let everyone know where I stand and to reiterate that my views are my own and not representative of any of the management of Raw Story or of Raw Story itself.

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Excellent that kind of garbage doesn't belong on any credible blog. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #1
Ooo, I know somebody who is not going to like this, MadHound Jun 2012 #2
Nice apology k/r Autumn Jun 2012 #3
K&R n/t myrna minx Jun 2012 #4
The 'let's attack Greenwald' crowd is among the lowest I have seen Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #5
I don't know if you saw the reports of how he was a target sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #8
Right, ProSense Jun 2012 #20
Someone said that a certain Obama supporter would Vattel Jun 2012 #57
Someone corrected you earlier. Here is a blue link to it - possibly for your edification... xocet Feb 2014 #82
Yes...thanks for the repost. It's well worth the read. n/t KoKo Jun 2012 #27
I do read Greenwald frequently. EFerrari Jun 2012 #16
Agreed. snot Jun 2012 #32
Yes... for me it's Jeremy, Matt & Glenn 2banon Jun 2012 #58
*edit* Marr Jun 2012 #59
Kick. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #6
Good on Raw Story. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2012 #7
K&R me b zola Jun 2012 #9
ABL is a good blog - usually Capt. Obvious Jun 2012 #10
It would be hard for anyone to endorse the kind of vitriol sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #11
More high quality blogs both political and financial these days KoKo Jun 2012 #28
What? Referring to GG as "High Lord Douchenozzle" isn't the sort of... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #30
well....exactly....! KoKo Jun 2012 #31
Or "asshat"... SixString Jun 2012 #34
It's from the same Brain Trust that brought us... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #48
I don't think this is the kind of 'fame' anyone wants. When you act like a deranged person online sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #43
It did backfire, yet in "I'm back, bitchez"... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #52
They probably wanted to give some attention to minority blogs. But the minority blogosphere is huge sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #54
+1 nashville_brook Jun 2012 #36
Bad writing, worse thinking and reactive as hell. EFerrari Jun 2012 #14
Yes, that was my reaction to her blog. There are way too many other places sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #15
She's a lightweight trying to play with the big boys and girls. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #29
spot on with the diablo cody reference. nashville_brook Jun 2012 #37
Ah, gotcha. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #53
Her spat with Joan Walsh was kind of entertaining Capt. Obvious Jun 2012 #71
She took on Walsh? WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #75
Glenn Greenwald JackHughes Jun 2012 #12
welcome to DU quinnox Jun 2012 #13
Just what the ProSense Jun 2012 #21
Across the vast gulf of time and space sudopod Jun 2012 #65
just to have a justice who reveres the Constitution would be a good start. nashville_brook Jun 2012 #38
Excellent post, thank you! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #45
It is an excellent post... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #49
an excellent summation of his position. nashville_brook Jun 2012 #78
Turley came to mind as I read your subject line... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #55
Yeah, Greenwald's thinly veiled racism would fit right in with this court. Ikonoklast Jun 2012 #51
Actually, he flat out said it did happen... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #62
A Catholic school attacking Mexicans seems quite bizarre nxylas Jun 2012 #70
Responding to Jack Hughes : Completely agree! and Welcome! 2banon Jun 2012 #60
Raw DURec KG Jun 2012 #17
RAWrrrrrrrr+++ patrice Jun 2012 #18
Good. WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #19
Glenn Greenwald reminds me of Rush Limbaugh... DFab420 Jun 2012 #22
Your comparison is apt, except for the part where Rush EFerrari Jun 2012 #24
exactly. 2banon Jun 2012 #63
...aaaaaand...folks heaping on Greenwald need to know that he's going to push back. as is his right. nashville_brook Jun 2012 #39
And what makes you think he doesn't? He's pretty tough and I laugh when I see people try to take him sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #47
+1 Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #81
No politician is worth abandoning principle. It's been fucking embarrassing to witness. whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #23
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #25
Thanks for this post Enrique and applause to Raw Story for their action. n/t KoKo Jun 2012 #26
Kicked And Recommended !!! WillyT Jun 2012 #33
Extreme Liberal has always been rather overheated and overhyped. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #35
There is a large cross over between the freeperish anti gay types and the anti Greenwald activists Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #40
that's a very good point -- it's an extension of debates that began nashville_brook Jun 2012 #41
I totally agree. Starry Messenger Jun 2012 #42
The anti-gay types sometimes refer to Greenwald as "Gigi". Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #46
Huh, I wasn't aware of that. WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #56
Thank you! (n/m) Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #67
ABL's Twitter comments are among the most irrational & nasty I've ever seen. DirkGently Jun 2012 #44
A far left version of Glenn Beck does exist. Dawson Leery Jun 2012 #50
So many critics of Glenn Greenwald, but so few critics of his writing. Marr Jun 2012 #61
Exactly. 2banon Jun 2012 #64
I'm considering writing a guide for smearing Greenwald Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #66
You nailed it! Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #68
Yeah, many others have criticized Obama's policies... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #73
# 7 is the most important point of all. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #69
"Tool," you forgot "tool"! WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #72
You need to update the list now Capt. Obvious Jun 2012 #74
Good synopsis of the problem at hand....... KoKo Jun 2012 #79
As they should have stupidicus Jun 2012 #76
Um, this? uberblonde Jun 2012 #77
I'm not that familiar with her stupidicus Jun 2012 #80
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