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Showing Original Post only (View all)Raw Story apologizes to Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill [View all]
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/06/a-few-thoughts-on-glenn-greenwald-ablc-raw-story-and-the-nature-of-political-discourse/In the years immediately following 9/11, anyone failing to march to the beat of Americas war drums be it Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D-CA), who was the sole vote against beginning the war in Afghanistan, or the Dixie Chicks, who pronounced themselves ashamed that the President who started 2 wars from Texas, or even the French people, who lost their eponymous fries was called unpatriotic, a helpmeet to (alternately), the terrorists, Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda and/or the Taliban, or even a traitor to this country (which has long valued the importance of political dissent, loyal and otherwise). Liberals decried the rhetoric, and talked about how it both possible to love this country, and the promise of this country, without providing unquestioning loyalty to its leaders.
So when Greenwald brought it to my attention that a Twitterer and blogger nominally associated with Raw Story (through the hosted blog Angry Black Lady Chronicles) had used that exact rhetoric to criticize Greenwald and The Nations Jeremy Scahill, it was hard to do more than roll my eyes and sigh. But as the executive editor of Raw Story, I am obligated to do more than that.
So, to be clear: Raw Story Media, of which I am an employee, hosts under contract Angry Black Lady Chronicles, one of two opinion blogs hosted by but not directed by the company. Under the terms of the companys contracts with both blogs, they have their own editorial discretion, their own direction and can bring on (and let go) of their bloggers at their own free will. Imani Gandy, the original ABLC blogger, told me that she has decided to use that discretion to ask two bloggers whose online pronouncements arent in keeping with and have interfered with what she sees as her editorial mission reproductive rights and racial justice to leave.
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To Greenwald and Scahill, whose reputations were maligned by a person who used the platform of Raw Story in ways it was not intended and with whom I personally take issue, I have privately apologized. This is my public one. It is my belief that reasonable people at every point on the political spectrum can look at the same set of facts and draw different and even sometimes equally valid conclusions about policy issues, politicians and the political system, and that those disagreements need not and should not descend into unsupportable, hyperbolic personal attacks intended to silence those with whom we disagree.
Edit: Here's AngryBlackLady's apology:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/06/the-greenwaldscahill-kerfuffle/
Politics is a blood-sport, and you never learn that more keenly than during an election year. Sometimes its easy to forget that were all human beings, no matter what we think of one anothers politics.
Sometimes rhetoric gets overheated and politics becomes personal and its at those moments, we need to stop and think. So, when it was brought to my attention that one of my co-bloggers, who goes by Extreme Liberal, implied on Twitter that Salons Glenn Greenwald and The Nations Jeremy Scahill work for the Taliban and al Qaeda because of their opposition to the Presidents use of drones, I realized it was time to take a moment. Although I didnt write that tweet, it wouldnt be right for me to pretend that its not relevant to me, or that its okay to let things like that slide if its directed at someone I dont like or agree with politically. That would make me a hypocrite, and I dont want to let a personal or political differences make me or this blog into someone I dont want to be.
Greenwald and I obviously have our differences and will probably continue to disagree. We are creatures of our experiences which inform our views of the world, and mine have been very different from his. Nonetheless, he deserves exactly what I want from him and everyone else who reads my work, whether they agree or disagree: to be treated like a human being.
So look, that kind of thing is not cool, people. We need to take things down a few notches from eleventy and remember that opposition is not the enemy. This doesnt mean we all have to hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and pretend to be BFFs, but it does mean that we must not let politics rob us of our ethics or human decency. I truly respect the work that Jeremy Scahill has done in his career his book Blackwater was a true eye-opener and although Glenn Greenwald and I rarely agree about politics, (although it may surprise you that I actually do share some of his foreign policy concerns and his concerns about imperialism in the Middle East), that doesnt mean that hes a traitor or a terrorist. Any suggestion of such is wrong and grossly inappropriate. I dont wish him harm. I dont believe that he deserves to be dehumanized. And I dont want anyone who supports me or enjoys my writing to think that I support or enjoy extreme, outrageous, or dehumanizing attacks on him or anyone because of public disagreements.
Because I absolutely mean that, Ive asked Extreme Liberal to step down as a blogger at ABLC, and Im writing this to let everyone know where I stand and to reiterate that my views are my own and not representative of any of the management of Raw Story or of Raw Story itself.
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Politics is a blood-sport, and you never learn that more keenly than during an election year. Sometimes its easy to forget that were all human beings, no matter what we think of one anothers politics.
Sometimes rhetoric gets overheated and politics becomes personal and its at those moments, we need to stop and think. So, when it was brought to my attention that one of my co-bloggers, who goes by Extreme Liberal, implied on Twitter that Salons Glenn Greenwald and The Nations Jeremy Scahill work for the Taliban and al Qaeda because of their opposition to the Presidents use of drones, I realized it was time to take a moment. Although I didnt write that tweet, it wouldnt be right for me to pretend that its not relevant to me, or that its okay to let things like that slide if its directed at someone I dont like or agree with politically. That would make me a hypocrite, and I dont want to let a personal or political differences make me or this blog into someone I dont want to be.
Greenwald and I obviously have our differences and will probably continue to disagree. We are creatures of our experiences which inform our views of the world, and mine have been very different from his. Nonetheless, he deserves exactly what I want from him and everyone else who reads my work, whether they agree or disagree: to be treated like a human being.
So look, that kind of thing is not cool, people. We need to take things down a few notches from eleventy and remember that opposition is not the enemy. This doesnt mean we all have to hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and pretend to be BFFs, but it does mean that we must not let politics rob us of our ethics or human decency. I truly respect the work that Jeremy Scahill has done in his career his book Blackwater was a true eye-opener and although Glenn Greenwald and I rarely agree about politics, (although it may surprise you that I actually do share some of his foreign policy concerns and his concerns about imperialism in the Middle East), that doesnt mean that hes a traitor or a terrorist. Any suggestion of such is wrong and grossly inappropriate. I dont wish him harm. I dont believe that he deserves to be dehumanized. And I dont want anyone who supports me or enjoys my writing to think that I support or enjoy extreme, outrageous, or dehumanizing attacks on him or anyone because of public disagreements.
Because I absolutely mean that, Ive asked Extreme Liberal to step down as a blogger at ABLC, and Im writing this to let everyone know where I stand and to reiterate that my views are my own and not representative of any of the management of Raw Story or of Raw Story itself.
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xocet
Feb 2014
#82
What? Referring to GG as "High Lord Douchenozzle" isn't the sort of...
WorseBeforeBetter
Jun 2012
#30
I don't think this is the kind of 'fame' anyone wants. When you act like a deranged person online
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#43
They probably wanted to give some attention to minority blogs. But the minority blogosphere is huge
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#54
just to have a justice who reveres the Constitution would be a good start.
nashville_brook
Jun 2012
#38
...aaaaaand...folks heaping on Greenwald need to know that he's going to push back. as is his right.
nashville_brook
Jun 2012
#39
And what makes you think he doesn't? He's pretty tough and I laugh when I see people try to take him
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#47
No politician is worth abandoning principle. It's been fucking embarrassing to witness.
whatchamacallit
Jun 2012
#23
There is a large cross over between the freeperish anti gay types and the anti Greenwald activists
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2012
#40
ABL's Twitter comments are among the most irrational & nasty I've ever seen.
DirkGently
Jun 2012
#44