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sofa king

(10,857 posts)
25. Very, very high.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jul 2016

As a former legislative analyst, I have been amazed at President Obama's ability to get what he wants in the teeth of total opposition. He's outfoxed the Republicans so much and so often that for the past four years they've resorted to a "no to everything" policy, which has actually helped the President, apparently because it makes Republican opposition easier to predict.

Couple of quick examples: Every year now, the Republican Congress refuses to do its primary job, which is to appropriate funds for running the government. Instead, they pass a continuing resolution, year after year, allowing the 2012 budget to remain in effect (with thousands of pages of amendments). But the 2012 budget is really the President's own budget, because despite his talk, Paul Ryan has been unable to craft a functional competing budget proposal. So every year, the Republicans pass some variant of President Obama's 2012 budget request. The 2012 budget was built with some minimal-funding requirements, so Congresscritters can only add to the NASA budget, for example, rather than raid it for pork funds.

Another fine example is the Republican refusal to hold hearings on the President's Supreme Court nominee. Now, President Obama, who should be a lame duck on the outside of this election, gets to campaign against nearly two dozen Republican Senators, making the Senate elections a mandate on his Supreme Court choice. President Obama is so damned good that he's on the verge of making Hillary Clinton a more effective President.

President Obama led Republicans into those traps because his knowledge of policy and process exceeds the wisdom of the entire Republican establishment. He's smarter and more effective than all of them, individually and collectively. He didn't get everything he wanted, but he got something of everything he wanted.

President Obama's policy successes will be studied by future great politicians for decades, if not centuries and millenia. He's the Teddy Roosevelt of our time. But even that comparison does not do President Obama justice, because he is succeeding in a much more complex and dangerous era against total opposition.

He's up there with me, too. MADem Jul 2016 #1
Premature. Still waiting for him to collect all the guns and open the FEMA camps. pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #3
LOL!!!!!!! MADem Jul 2016 #5
Oh! JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #12
I just rank by "in my lifetime" not in history GusBob Jul 2016 #2
Same here. randome Jul 2016 #17
That's a good list PJMcK Jul 2016 #18
Agreed. LBJ's Great Society and civil rights accomplishments deserve an honorable mention . . . brush Jul 2016 #54
Yes! charlyvi Jul 2016 #60
Definitely Top 10, maybe even Top 5 YoungDemCA Jul 2016 #4
First Prez I remember was Ike, but I was too young to know his history of war heroism... Hekate Jul 2016 #6
Going with modern presidents, so, FDR and beyond: 1. FDR, 2. Obama Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #7
That sounds about right. calimary Jul 2016 #9
FDR had an 80% dem congress, I'd rank Obama even if not one with FDR seeing around 75% of his uponit7771 Jul 2016 #40
LBJ's Great Society and civil rights contributions rival FDR's. Vietnam tainted his legacy though. brush Jul 2016 #56
That's just it - Vietnam really drags it down. Take away the war and he might be greatest ever. Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #69
He's near the top. longship Jul 2016 #8
I suppose he and Clinton are the ones that I consider best of recent times. David__77 Jul 2016 #10
Within the top three madokie Jul 2016 #11
Top Five JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #13
Harding huh? Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #52
Of all time I'd make him number 6 or 7 Recursion Jul 2016 #14
11 rug Jul 2016 #15
Maybe in the top 10. Hard to rank him above rateyes Jul 2016 #16
Agreed. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #34
FDR, JFK had 80 and 70% dem congress's... Obama had 55% dem for 60 days and after that... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #41
I think they need to make some room safeinOhio Jul 2016 #19
Around 9th. Zynx Jul 2016 #20
I would put him in the top 10 at the very least. smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #21
Hard to tell yet. Oneironaut Jul 2016 #22
Historians will put him easily in the top 15 probably top 10 underpants Jul 2016 #23
The best in my lifetime. Adrahil Jul 2016 #24
Very, very high. sofa king Jul 2016 #25
1-2, don't remember Kennedy Demonaut Jul 2016 #26
JFK ranks high for his handling of the Cuban missile crisis alone. nt pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #29
Excellent point! First Speaker Jul 2016 #30
Modern Prsidents - FDR, Kennedy, Obama, Johnson, Truman, Carter, Ike, Clinton, Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #27
Best in my lifetime, top three all time ghostsinthemachine Jul 2016 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #31
I would rank him about 12-15... First Speaker Jul 2016 #32
Grant???? AntiBank Jul 2016 #36
Even so... First Speaker Jul 2016 #53
I am more of a Thaddeus Stevens and Charles Sumner fan AntiBank Jul 2016 #55
IN my Lifetime Reagan has been the worst . His values are what made the GOP really ill Person 2713 Jul 2016 #33
Reagan enabled exceptionalism for the privileged class. lpbk2713 Jul 2016 #48
Bush II is my second worst. . Person 2713 Jul 2016 #50
Lincoln remains # 1 Motley13 Jul 2016 #35
complete rankings, based off more than just my personal left ideology AntiBank Jul 2016 #37
It's hard to rank them in that treestar Jul 2016 #38
Definitely top ten I think. jalan48 Jul 2016 #39
Seeing that the other presidents had 65% - 80% dem congress's during their terms 3 at least uponit7771 Jul 2016 #42
I walked in to a presidential exhibit at the California state fair a few years ago worstexever Jul 2016 #43
Top 5 Gothmog Jul 2016 #44
Too early to say Retrograde Jul 2016 #45
Good, could have been great but for Congress. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jul 2016 #46
Somewhere above WJC, but not too far ahead. PowerToThePeople Jul 2016 #47
I'd say near the top Bettie Jul 2016 #49
top 5.... chillfactor Jul 2016 #51
Numero Uno lovemydog Jul 2016 #57
Best President of my lifetime. dilby Jul 2016 #58
I'm surprised to see TR in so many people's top 10. He did many great things, but he also did Squinch Jul 2016 #59
Best president in my lifetime. liberalmuse Jul 2016 #61
BEST in my lifetime LyndaG Jul 2016 #62
That was brought to you by the Republican Party Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #63
Agree 100 percent LyndaG Jul 2016 #64
Might depend on the TPP. Plus, not crazy about Arne Duncan. OTOH, Obamacare is a plus. WinkyDink Jul 2016 #65
My order Exilednight Jul 2016 #66
Number 1 BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #67
#2 nt Jitter65 Jul 2016 #68
a mixed bag. He could have been an FDR given public disgust with Bushism yurbud Jul 2016 #70
Realistically, you don't know for at least five years out Algernon Moncrieff Jul 2016 #71
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