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Albertoo

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11. Well, my point was a bit more general, but OK

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The problem with saying "All Lives Matter" [View all] gollygee Jul 2016 OP

K&R nt Xipe Totec Jul 2016 #1

I disagree. The BLM slogan can become exclusive. Albertoo Jul 2016 #2

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #5

+1 bravenak Jul 2016 #8

I agree with you. Nt metroins Jul 2016 #9

I don't recall white people being lynched.. HipChick Jul 2016 #10

Thanks for helping me make my point: BLM exists because of the past Albertoo Jul 2016 #12

Tell that to the generations that have been dehumanized.. HipChick Jul 2016 #15

And? Generalising grudges over the past makes a worse world, not a better one. Albertoo Jul 2016 #17

grudges over the past? KMOD Jul 2016 #19

Aristotle wrote "who loves in excess can hate in excess" Albertoo Jul 2016 #22

You honestly find it excessive? KMOD Jul 2016 #31

That is not what I wrote Albertoo Jul 2016 #51

So you deny that racial injustice continues to be an issue? KMOD Jul 2016 #63

No, I did not say that either Albertoo Jul 2016 #67

"The statement that Black lives are systematically willfully dehumanized is excessive" kwassa Jul 2016 #38

OK I'll take your challenge: educate me on the statement I made Albertoo Jul 2016 #43

Institutional racism is willful, and systematic. kwassa Jul 2016 #80

Oh really? ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #44

Slavery is now a Generalized grudge? HipChick Jul 2016 #33

A useful solution to solving the problems affecting black lives, KMOD Jul 2016 #16

I agree with some of your points, but you still do not solve the BLM conundrum Albertoo Jul 2016 #21

When black men are killed by police KMOD Jul 2016 #26

Or holding a puppy! (14-year-old choked but thankfully not killed) gollygee Jul 2016 #32

To talk about systemic racism, nothing can be more clear than NYC's "broken window" policy. rusty quoin Jul 2016 #36

Progress will be made when people on both sides can Igel Jul 2016 #76

Couldn't Agree More RobinA Jul 2016 #120

The past? You mean all of a few years ago? Rex Jul 2016 #18

BLM is not the best advocate for racial equality IMHO Albertoo Jul 2016 #25

No they don't. KMOD Jul 2016 #28

Excessive claims were made about Trayvon Martin or Michael Brown Albertoo Jul 2016 #35

What? rusty quoin Jul 2016 #42

Whoo said 'nothing'? Albertoo Jul 2016 #64

Yeah. Brown charged a police car? rusty quoin Jul 2016 #86

Misrepresenting what I say isn't proper discussion. Where do I support Zimmerman? Albertoo Jul 2016 #89

You sound like a bigoted right wing troll. Tread lightly. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #113

I suppose anyone who doesn't absolutely share your views sounds like a RW troll? Albertoo Jul 2016 #115

Here.... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #132

Excessive claims? KMOD Jul 2016 #48

In neither case was a racial animus the most likely cause of the death Albertoo Jul 2016 #58

Once again, KMOD Jul 2016 #62

I Would Disagree RobinA Jul 2016 #121

The police are ill-equipped in dealing with KMOD Jul 2016 #130

If you think Treyvon Martin's execution had nothing to do with race giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #56

+100 nt gollygee Jul 2016 #57

So you think Latinos hate Blacks, is that it? Albertoo Jul 2016 #61

Do you think Latinos can't have prejudice? KMOD Jul 2016 #66

But was it the key motivation of Zimmerman? I do not think so. Albertoo Jul 2016 #70

Zimmerman shot an unarmed kid walking home from the store. Rex Jul 2016 #75

Yes. Now show me racism was central to the case. Albertoo Jul 2016 #78

Here ya go, now what? Rex Jul 2016 #83

He stalked Trayvon KMOD Jul 2016 #79

I detailed the case as I see it in post #70 Albertoo Jul 2016 #82

Martin made gang signs? You just keep making that stuff up. Rex Jul 2016 #85

Yes, we have evidence T Martin sometimes did gang signs Albertoo Jul 2016 #91

Yeah that is what I thought. Rex Jul 2016 #92

I stick to facts Albertoo Jul 2016 #94

Facts? I haven't seen you bring up one fact yet. Just letting everyone know you got caught. Rex Jul 2016 #95

Caught? You're dreaming :) Albertoo Jul 2016 #99

Nice strawman you built there, nobody ever said what you are claiming. Rex Jul 2016 #101

So does my 6-year-old daughter gollygee Jul 2016 #93

And? All I said was that we do not **know** how Zimmerman picked his 'suspects' Albertoo Jul 2016 #96

LOL gollygee Jul 2016 #98

Look, for argument sake, let's say Zimmerman was a racist Albertoo Jul 2016 #102

Zimmerman isn't the only person involved gollygee Jul 2016 #125

I think Zimmerman was a mild loon and that his case did not reflect on anything much Albertoo Jul 2016 #127

He found a black teen, suspective. KMOD Jul 2016 #97

We can agree on the fact was a weirdo, but YOU might have been a suspect Albertoo Jul 2016 #103

OK, this is just silly at this point. KMOD Jul 2016 #105

I know what is obvious. rusty quoin Jul 2016 #107

It was horrible. KMOD Jul 2016 #111

Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas Albertoo Jul 2016 #109

His history is history enough. Someone said you are obtuse. I agree. rusty quoin Jul 2016 #112

I'm like Forrest Gump, "Obtuse is as obtuse does" Albertoo Jul 2016 #116

As a Latina I am well aware that some Latinos despise blacks. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #119

Wow. Just wow. Albertoo Jul 2016 #126

You are flat out wrong. Rex Jul 2016 #72

We differ on two issues. I'm not sure who's wrong. Albertoo Jul 2016 #74

This is also false on it face, you been listening to faux new too long... they've been saying simila uponit7771 Jul 2016 #124

I never listen to Fox News Albertoo Jul 2016 #128

No. It isn't just the past. Lynching is a problem today, too. Did you read about the racist Kansas tblue37 Jul 2016 #24

While this is true, it was not my point Albertoo Jul 2016 #30

"Some racism rampant against some in the population?" gollygee Jul 2016 #37

It's the result of the World Attitudes Survey Albertoo Jul 2016 #40

That is a very superficial way to look at racism gollygee Jul 2016 #41

You make two interesting points Albertoo Jul 2016 #47

You should probably do some googling on this issue gollygee Jul 2016 #50

I know these facts, but they do not prove the sentence Albertoo Jul 2016 #52

You need to read about the history of our criminal justice system gollygee Jul 2016 #55

OK, I understand. We differ on just words. Albertoo Jul 2016 #59

I think you need to take a look in the mirror, but I don't expect it. rusty quoin Jul 2016 #108

+1000 Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #114

I suppose we all do have difficulties leaving our comfort zones :) Albertoo Jul 2016 #118

BLM exists because of the present, not the past. kwassa Jul 2016 #39

I understand that Albertoo Jul 2016 #73

so, police are brutal just because they are brutal? kwassa Jul 2016 #81

so, police are brutal just because they are racist? Albertoo Jul 2016 #87

That one can find examples of white victims of police brutality is unsurprising, and does nothing to fishwax Jul 2016 #110

I agree with your sentence Albertoo Jul 2016 #117

This is false on its face uponit7771 Jul 2016 #123

I think not, but I'm tired of trying to defend a moderate view on this issue Albertoo Jul 2016 #129

Lots of white people were lynched Nevernose Jul 2016 #13

They were a minority of those lynched in the south. Igel Jul 2016 #69

I don't recall hearing BLM activists saying anything Cracklin Charlie Jul 2016 #104

Agreed jack_krass Jul 2016 #20

Seriously? Raastan Jul 2016 #88

Rest assured ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #3

You just barely missed him bravenak Jul 2016 #4

Damned cap-lock! 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #6

1SBM yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #14

Well, my point was a bit more general, but OK Albertoo Jul 2016 #11

Sorry--there is no way to post fast enough to get there before someone arrives tblue37 Jul 2016 #27

There's a huge problem with it ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #7

the problem, from my point of view, with "all lives matter" is unblock Jul 2016 #23

The worst part is, they don't even believe it themselves. GoCubsGo Jul 2016 #54

A recent meme by conservatives is "Blue Lives Matter" but when shown keithbvadu2 Jul 2016 #29

"Blue" lives do not exist? RussBLib Jul 2016 #46

"Blue lives" do exist, even if keithbvadu2 Jul 2016 #53

well, it wasn't me making the claim, but RussBLib Jul 2016 #65

What is the BLM position? kentuck Jul 2016 #34

I guess ALMETPSBLMITC was too long. rusty quoin Jul 2016 #49

I would agree with you on that... kentuck Jul 2016 #60

Perhaps black people should not be targeted for traffic stops because they are black. rusty quoin Jul 2016 #77

At this point, I've come to the conclusion that TDale313 Jul 2016 #45

Does society have to approve what we think or feel? kentuck Jul 2016 #68

When I say our society is not behaving as if Black Lives Matter TDale313 Jul 2016 #90

I agree that some are indeed doing that. KMOD Jul 2016 #71

The day after the Dallas shootings Igel Jul 2016 #84

Here's my problem... Cracklin Charlie Jul 2016 #100

True, but BLM is all out there to yell at people that BLM. rusty quoin Jul 2016 #106

BLM RobinA Jul 2016 #122

Good Point Masked Dissident Jul 2016 #131