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In reply to the discussion: Islam, as it is practiced by a majority of muslims in the world, is a regressive force. [View all]Kurska
(5,739 posts)244. Tribalism predates any religion
But the modern justification for it is based on religion, especially in the middle east.
I posted them, because I think many people sleep walk through their life thinking Islam is something besides what it is. I know people like to side with the victim and the middle east has been victimized by the west, but it does the world no good to pretend religious radicalism isn't widely supported in most Muslim countries.
But yes, like I said, invasions and arms doesn't solve cultural issues.
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Islam, as it is practiced by a majority of muslims in the world, is a regressive force. [View all]
Kurska
Jul 2016
OP
its practiced by close to a plurality of the world, not anywhere close to a majority
ericson00
Jul 2016
#3
I meant as it is practiced by a majority of Muslims, not as a majority of the world.
Kurska
Jul 2016
#4
are Evangelicals bad people or Mormons bad people? No, but progressives criticize their religion
ericson00
Jul 2016
#9
Pretending that the current social policies are anything but continous from ones thousands of years
Kurska
Jul 2016
#99
I'm not an "Islam-defender"...It's just that I'm not an anti-Islam obsessive.
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#113
"Nothing anyone said about the Soviet model from outside had anything to do with it. '
Kurska
Jul 2016
#141
I agree that those countries are backwards places. Repression anywhere should be denounced.
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#186
So Ken, please dictate the limits LGBT must respect when objecting to the lash and
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#143
Wasn't talking about LGBTQ people here, and would never limit your right to speak out.
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#177
Well, I live in Malaysia for a while. Women are required to dress like muslim women need to
Feeling the Bern
Jul 2016
#71
the colonialism the Muslim world experienced pales in comparison to that of sub-Saharan Africa,
ericson00
Jul 2016
#14
Now imagine there was a HDI and victimization of colonialism map overlaid ontop of that
Kurska
Jul 2016
#24
the West Indies are very anti gay in cultrure, but many of the smaller islands don't do
AntiBank
Jul 2016
#60
How have you managed to separate terrorism from social development and progress?
sibelian
Jul 2016
#154
Most Muslims live in lands forcibly converted by Arab/Muslim colonizers. Was it racism?
Albertoo
Jul 2016
#75
Why would the colonized have a more regressive view of women, homosexuals and ethnic
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2016
#130
The western world's progressive values *resulted* in its wealth and education...
sibelian
Jul 2016
#161
"Christianity, as it is practiced by a majority of Christians in the world, is a regressive force."
enough
Jul 2016
#18
DU has no problem admitting that, so I don't understand why the inverse is offensive to people EOM
Kurska
Jul 2016
#21
"How come I can criticize white people but people call me a bigot when I criticize black people?"
Chathamization
Jul 2016
#157
You honestly see no difference between someone saying "stupid white people" and someone saying
Chathamization
Jul 2016
#160
So if someone said "I hate Christians" you'd treat them the same as somone who said "I hate Jews"?
Chathamization
Jul 2016
#169
Also, I criticize the religion, and the repressive culture that has formed around the religion.
backscatter712
Jul 2016
#163
If you're not criticizing the people, perhaps don't write "See how they act?" to show us how
Chathamization
Jul 2016
#170
Because those who want to label Islam as "regressive" only want that label put in place
Ken Burch
Jul 2016
#191
African slave trade was originally and finally a Muslim practice, they started it and
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#33
The post I responded to, you asked if Christianity was the root cause of slavery, I pointed
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#144
The OP is about Islam which is a school of thought that includes execution of LGBT.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#37
The OP is about Islam which is a school of thought that includes execution of LGBT.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#142
Even scarier is what muslims think of other religions in muslim majority countries
MariaThinks
Jul 2016
#34
have you read the numbers? what is the acceptance of Christianity or Judaism in the
MariaThinks
Jul 2016
#50
It is recent problem because there is nothing inhiretently in Islam against Jews/Christians
kcjohn1
Jul 2016
#51
Not only recent. There is a long history of persecutions of non-Muslims in Muslim lands.
hrmjustin
Jul 2016
#83
"Asked of Muslims only" I wonder what the results would be if we only asked Muslims about...
ck4829
Jul 2016
#41
No, compare nations like Brazil/Bolivia/Vietnam/ to nations like Egypt/Iran/Algeria/Morocco.
Kurska
Jul 2016
#49
It certainly can be. The biggest problem are people who are conservative/Fundamentalist types
The Straight Story
Jul 2016
#46
Straight, we have, at long last, found a subject on which we wholeheartedly agree. Great post.
Squinch
Jul 2016
#129
Iraq sell their oil on the open market like every other oil producing country.
EX500rider
Jul 2016
#211
"Oil was still being stolen unmetered as of 2007" Any reputable links for that?
EX500rider
Jul 2016
#237
who ever said that? Not everyone who criticizes any aspect of Islam is a warmonger!
ericson00
Jul 2016
#66
Worse: Islam has been devised as an regressive force extremely difficult to reform
Albertoo
Jul 2016
#69
we already know right wing christians suck and it's good we have separation of church and state
JI7
Jul 2016
#93
I don't care. And "turn the other cheek" and "slay the infidels" are two very different ideologies
Albertoo
Jul 2016
#100
Right as a gay man there is no way I'm concerned about the plight of gay people in those countries
Kurska
Jul 2016
#224
It seems to me that Islam was largely ignored until 1979 when the Iranians
no_hypocrisy
Jul 2016
#155
Is there an 'Islamic underground' that tries to change these beliefs that gays should be killed?
randome
Jul 2016
#182
Except the overwhelming support for ultra-orthodox like positions in the Muslim world.
Kurska
Jul 2016
#218
But Kurska, you could replace Islam with most other religions and the statement would still be true
KamaAina
Jul 2016
#192
Anyone who does not call out all the religions that push bigotry is parroting the right wing.
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2016
#196
Because it is true of most religions, but saying it of Islam is offensive here.
Kurska
Jul 2016
#216
How bout not criticizng Islam at all, while one attacks ever other organized religion.
Kurska
Jul 2016
#236
Not surprisingly, the OP is written by a supporter of oppression and aggressive wars against Muslims
cpwm17
Jul 2016
#198
why does no other religious group around the world take such extreme offense
ericson00
Jul 2016
#207
who started the slave trade in Africa? Which country was the last to formally abolish slavery?
ericson00
Jul 2016
#209
Does any of that matter to people stoned to death for loving the 'wrong' person?
randome
Jul 2016
#210
If a woman in a western country wants to walk away from a religion or a marriage, she can.
randome
Jul 2016
#217
I agree, religion is not the problem. Culture is. Killing for minor offenses is codified in law.
randome
Jul 2016
#227
As a rule, I have a great dislike philosophically for all of the Abrahamic religions.
MohRokTah
Jul 2016
#214
I'm gonna guess you don't know a majority of Muslims in the world and so
struggle4progress
Jul 2016
#223