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28. Welcome to DU, Mellomugwump!

Or, as auntpurl more accurately noted, welcome BACK to DU.

You make a worthy point here. Lots of young people, for whom this may be the very first campaign experience or convention experience, just weren't around when the persecution of Hillary Clinton began. Or they were too young. Well, I'M old! And I remember clearly and maybe even with probably some grudge-holding. I HATE it - how the witch burning has continued. I HATE it when people badmouth her, and condemn her, and spread lies about her and believe the lies that others spread about her, and call her names. I HATE it when my beloved best friend starts spouting what I KNOW are Pox Noise propaganda blurbs against Hillary.

I read one opinion that stated most people who've learned or been schooled by the CONSTANT dumping on Hillary might not even be able to explain why she lied, or why she's corrupt, or why she's "bought and paid for" - it's just what they hear. I've even tried it myself - "lied about WHAT?" "How is she corrupt?" "What do you mean she's corrupt"? and so forth. And they can't come up with specifics. I heard someone describing how they watched her Benghazi testimony and while they found her "masterful" all that long tortured day, "she lied the whole time!" I hollered over - "about what?" They couldn't come up with an answer! They've just heard, over and over and over, "she's a liar" so that's all that's needed, I guess. The programming sure works.

I can fully understand and sympathize with her statements that - yes, she's careful with her words. Yes, she's guarded. Yes, she's not terribly forthcoming, personally. Well, WHO WOULDN'T BE, WHO'S BEEN FREAKIN' PERSECUTED FOR APPROXIMATELY 25 YEARS??????? I'd certainly feel like that! Seems as though there are days when she can't even get out of bed in the morning without being pelted with criticism - for what a shitty way others think she gets out of bed in the morning!!!

I had a mother who was hyper-critical. Found fault with me all the time. It's totally screwed me up, gotta tell you. Fat-shaming for 50-some-odd years will do that to you. Didn't matter how many years I made straight A's, stayed out of trouble, and hung out with fellow nerds who never got in trouble either. I was NEVER quite good enough because I wasn't a size 2. I did have really great hair so I grew it long and had long bangs and I hid under them - and sure enough I got criticized for THAT, too! NOTHING I did was ever good enough. I coulda cured cancer and I STILL wouldn't be good enough. My mother even told me as much, from her hospital bed one day, when I asked her "Mom, can't you just accept me the way I am?" And she told me the truth - "No. I can't." I had a feeling that's what she'd say. And as the Rude Pundit would put it, "well, fuck us all with a surprise stick."

Hmmm... guess I identify too personally with Hillary. But well, there you are. Guilty as charged. But seriously. I TOTALLY get why she's guarded. She has a good reason to be that way. I would be, too. I only had my mother criticizing me all the doggone time. Hillary has LEGIONS of people, from every quarter - public and private/pro and non-pro criticizing her all the time. And I'll always give her the benefit of the doubt.