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jmg257

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82. Damn straight - class A misdemeanor is serious shit.

Sun Sep 18, 2016, 02:19 PM

Sep 2016

Last edited Sun Sep 18, 2016, 03:30 PM - Edit history (2)

Taking them in is easy...he'd be committing the crime (till he wanted them back) , and likely he has enough problems. We can just go to a FFL and keep it legal.

Chances are some people won't care about breaking the law, but others don't take doing something illegal lightly.

"Your" call for sure.

IF you want to base it all on "intent" then selling your legal-to-own buddy a gun vs selling it to someone you know is likely not legal makes all the difference. If only the laws were written that way.

ETA: they used to be

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I have an arrangement with a former Marine. Big burly dude. [View all] flamin lib Sep 2016 OP

Hero voteearlyvoteoften Sep 2016 #1

Times 100 (n/t) PJMcK Sep 2016 #29

A burden shared (here or elsewhere) is a burden lessened. He's lucky to have you as a friend. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #2

If more people had friends like you and your burly ex Marine Warpy Sep 2016 #3

I heard recently about a study of the factors related to gun use. Stevepol Sep 2016 #15

In times like these Loki Sep 2016 #4

Yikes! They are very lucky to have a friend like you. Hope things improve for them soon. n/t pnwmom Sep 2016 #5

This is just excellent!! Really good work!! n/t Dem_in_Nebr. Sep 2016 #6

A true friend... Johnyawl Sep 2016 #7

how about just never having guns in the house? Skittles Sep 2016 #8

Works here in my house. n/t. airplaneman Sep 2016 #32

Yep relayerbob Sep 2016 #43

My thought exactly. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #45

Works for me... Agschmid Sep 2016 #48

Outstanding.... Aviation Pro Sep 2016 #9

You're a good person Sienna86 Sep 2016 #10

You're very brave, and a good friend. Ilsa Sep 2016 #11

You and your friend are MicaelS Sep 2016 #12

You saved lives OldRedneck Sep 2016 #13

I, too, am in a rural Virginia County. phylny Sep 2016 #16

It's good to have a friend... discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #14

Good solid work- but be aware what you did in some states would constitute multiple felonies Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #17

Getting in trouble with the police is the LAST concern in a situation like this. nt pinboy3niner Sep 2016 #19

It is but people should be aware they can still have lives destroyed for doing the right thing Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #21

In all seriousness I doubt that anyone could find a judge to allow prosecution under flamin lib Sep 2016 #23

Then there will be huge gaps in enforcement. krispos42 Sep 2016 #26

Oh pulezzz. flamin lib Sep 2016 #39

In sweetapogee Sep 2016 #53

Here is how it would be prosecuted Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #64

Like anyone would prosecute that. Christ, gunners are so irrational. Hoyt Sep 2016 #35

See my response above on how it would be Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #65

Lee, you guys -- gun supporters -- are just trying to criticize background checks. Majority of Hoyt Sep 2016 #78

Because in America all cops and prosecutors are fair and unbiased hack89 Sep 2016 #77

Howabout you gunners show us one case where something like this has been prosecuting where there is Hoyt Sep 2016 #79

Why? hack89 Sep 2016 #81

What the heck do you call you gunners' fear of prosecution for taking guns away from someone Hoyt Sep 2016 #90

How come you never show AA gun owners? hack89 Sep 2016 #95

Because AA have better sense than to act like yahoos, not nearly as many as white gunners, Hoyt Sep 2016 #96

So being a yahoo has nothing to do with actually shooting people? hack89 Sep 2016 #98

Abramski vs US Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #84

Cue the music sarisataka Sep 2016 #88

That's called a straw-purchase. We are talking taking someone's guns for their protection with Hoyt Sep 2016 #89

Both situations are illegal acts with no criminal intent Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #93

Man, I bet you were a riot when busting people for minor offenses. Hoyt Sep 2016 #97

Not how I rolled but when I worked domestic violence I saw lots of cases Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #99

Ownership wasnt transferred. The owner let him keep the gun for him. 7962 Sep 2016 #52

Doesn't matter in most of the UBC states Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #63

So it would be illegal for me to let you take my gun for target shooting? 7962 Sep 2016 #68

Yes- in some states it's so absurd that it's worse Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #70

Holy crap. I'm sending your post to a few friends. Thanks for the info 7962 Sep 2016 #83

Good lord, how many "firearms" do you have? cwydro Sep 2016 #18

I'll explain my own but his are his business. flamin lib Sep 2016 #20

Aren't your rifles Mosin Nagants? If so, the design was adopted in 1891. Marengo Sep 2016 #71

My husband's ex wife shot herself dead ismnotwasm Sep 2016 #22

In some states the recipient would be guilty of multiple felonies. krispos42 Sep 2016 #24

see #23 flamin lib Sep 2016 #25

+1. Jeeeez. Hoyt Sep 2016 #36

And it's the usual SwankyXomb Sep 2016 #38

Yeah, that's our first worry when a friend's life is on the line pinboy3niner Sep 2016 #40

Perhaps a huge lock box with a padlock that only the OP has the key too ecstatic Sep 2016 #62

((((((((((flamin lib)))))) you may just have saved lives today. thank you for being there, niyad Sep 2016 #27

Same situation for my brother. JonathanRackham Sep 2016 #28

I wish all friends and neighbors had agreements like this. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #30

Thank you. SusanCalvin Sep 2016 #31

Nice thing to do. Lucky you are in a state where such "loans" are legal. jmg257 Sep 2016 #33

Oh, BS. No state would prosecute that, not a one. Hoyt Sep 2016 #37

Lake Oswego pastor could face charges for transfer of AR-15 NickB79 Sep 2016 #50

Might, could, being looked into. flamin lib Sep 2016 #56

Do you know what COULD means? Hoyt Sep 2016 #57

Yes, it means there's enough ambiguity in the law that the police need to investigate NickB79 Sep 2016 #69

He's not going to be charged... Marengo Sep 2016 #74

That's good to know - I wonder how to tell then what is illegal and what isn't. jmg257 Sep 2016 #55

No one will prosecute taking gunz away from a depressed man, UNLESS THE MAN FILES THEFT CHARGES. Hoyt Sep 2016 #58

I get it...as long as he's depressed, he can transfer/dispose of his guns w/o a check. Makes sense. jmg257 Sep 2016 #59

No, you don't have it. As long as prosecutors know it was done to protect the gunner and Hoyt Sep 2016 #60

How do they know that? Cause the 2 people involved in the unlawful transaction said so? jmg257 Sep 2016 #72

If one of your gun buddies begs you to take his guns because he's become depressed, tell him you Hoyt Sep 2016 #80

Damn straight - class A misdemeanor is serious shit. jmg257 Sep 2016 #82

You have an interesting trust of law enforcement and prosecutors on this Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #85

"Man ilegally transfers guns of friend facing immenant restraining order to avoid police taking them Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #66

Its also illegal to transfer guns to the police...at least there is no exemption for it. nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #73

Let the spouse claim it was to avoid the guns being taken as she applies for a restraining order Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #67

I once took all of my best friend's guns pinboy3niner Sep 2016 #34

While your friend's story is no doubt terrible, branford Sep 2016 #86

He obviously trusts you, something money can't buy. No Vested Interest Sep 2016 #41

Thank you so much for doing this. Chalco Sep 2016 #42

You did the right thing, and I'm pretty sure everyone here is with you on this. Ken Burch Sep 2016 #44

Winston Churchill said: mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2016 #46

Does he have PTSD? ErikJ Sep 2016 #47

What a good friend you are classykaren Sep 2016 #49

Real Soxfan58 Sep 2016 #51

You are a good friend. Lifelong Protester Sep 2016 #54

Unfortunately, many people and gun owners think they are perfect, ecstatic Sep 2016 #61

I'm glad that I don't need that kind of arrangement, LWolf Sep 2016 #75

I'm glad you are confident of your personal safety branford Sep 2016 #87

Yes. LWolf Sep 2016 #94

Good for you, you are a friend beyond measure, everyone intheozone Sep 2016 #76

I could have used someone like you in my first marriage lunatica Sep 2016 #91

Well done! smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #92