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PCIntern

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Wed Oct 5, 2016, 06:36 PM Oct 2016

Those of you who know me know that I don't make shit up. [View all]



Today I had a very interesting patient who told me some very good news:

This guy is a sports statistician: people in professional sports pay him ungodly sums to figure out various propositions and whether they would benefit the team or not. The film Moneyball was based on some of the fundamental premises under which these guys work

But guess what he does in his "spare time"? He handicaps elections based upon aspects of polls which we, the public, never get to see, such as the sampling and the rationale for such sampling. He told me in no uncertain terms that any state in which Trump is leading by four points or fewer, he will lose and that the professionals in the business are expecting a win by Mrs. Clinton of at LEAST the proportion of the 2008 victory by President Obama if not greater.

Further, he agreed that the statement made by Chuck Todd was correct: that the polls which showed the race tightening utilized fallacious methodology. Gross undersampling of Democrats for example.

This is good news if true. I have no reason to doubt his professional judgement.
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So, he's saying all poll's margin of error will default to the Clinton's camp? Brother Buzz Oct 2016 #1
No...not quite... PCIntern Oct 2016 #5
That aspect of the movie was total Hollywood nonsense Major Nikon Oct 2016 #21
That's right, I remember. The conservatives were all completly shocked when Romney lost. Kablooie Oct 2016 #23
I think that we will always have close elections now the media makes so much money Maraya1969 Oct 2016 #59
Bingo! trof Oct 2016 #60
Wow..in that case we may indeed see a landslide victory for President and misterhighwasted Oct 2016 #7
I get a feeling that guy knows what he is talking about... nt MADem Oct 2016 #2
Funnily enough I was thinking about just that sort of thing today. Provided there isn't some massive OnDoutside Oct 2016 #3
A big, fat K&R! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2016 #4
If that's the case she probably gets AZ, GA, and maybe SC, TX, UT Renew Deal Oct 2016 #6
McCain's lead in AZ will pull Trump along for the ride. former9thward Oct 2016 #45
Earlier OP (volaris) covered exactly what you're talking about: Laffy Kat Oct 2016 #8
LOL malaise Oct 2016 #16
Great minds and all... Laffy Kat Oct 2016 #18
K&R... spanone Oct 2016 #9
You just made my day! Thanks for passing this along, PCI! Hekate Oct 2016 #10
I'm thinking landslide victory too because I still believe most Americans reject Trashbag Trump Cakes488 Oct 2016 #11
It's called Sabermetrics Sophiegirl Oct 2016 #12
Go Cubs!..........and apologies pkdu Oct 2016 #37
Now just wait a goll dang minute.......baseball stats??? How do these stats work for football??? a kennedy Oct 2016 #41
They'll have to go through Seattle..... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #42
I'm hoping for Seattle....and NOT the Vikings...... a kennedy Oct 2016 #43
K&R smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #13
Thanks for the good news, PC gademocrat7 Oct 2016 #14
And some people will now show up to vote HRC, simply to say they voted for the winner. ffr Oct 2016 #15
And there will be some who vote sheerly to be part of history when we elect the FIRST WOMAN!! Cakes488 Oct 2016 #19
Like this GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #28
There is that, too. calimary Oct 2016 #32
Yep. There is that. calimary Oct 2016 #25
That gives us Arizona! Hamlette Oct 2016 #17
Perhaps even Georgia. robertpaulsen Oct 2016 #39
can you imagine? Hamlette Oct 2016 #54
I will also bet there are more than a few people who intend to vote for Trump, but when they are world wide wally Oct 2016 #20
As well as huge numbers of women who LuckyLib Oct 2016 #27
A perfect prescription doc. Thank you! Now we need to GOTV! TeamPooka Oct 2016 #22
Lots of poll samplings have been like +4 D, a few +8 or even +10. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #24
I'm not sure I buy that , Bernardo, when one considers OnDoutside Oct 2016 #29
Supreme Court GopherGal Oct 2016 #48
Polls mean nothing... VMA131Marine Oct 2016 #26
Talking with some friends last night....I bet there are lots of folks who will answer a poll wiggs Oct 2016 #30
Every day, my husband looks at me and says mountain grammy Oct 2016 #31
Fivethirtyeight cindyperry Oct 2016 #33
It's time to give a woman a chance. Ligyron Oct 2016 #34
There was never any tightening...Trump has been losing from go alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #35
It ain't just the polls shadowmayor Oct 2016 #36
The bit about Carson is Funny. PCIntern Oct 2016 #38
This election has been over for months Egnever Oct 2016 #55
The ever secretive "internals" creoledna Oct 2016 #40
Isn't this Nate Silver's 538 model? Same tools I believe. N/T SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2016 #44
The polls are skewed to favor Republicans because of a TERROR that the hippies are taking over. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #46
To me, Trumpkin's support seems a mile wide... paleotn Oct 2016 #47
Hillary has broad progressive themes that are resonating bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #49
Indeed good news. But that doesn't mean any of us can stay home on election hamsterjill Oct 2016 #50
SC/AZ are going to HRC under this scenario. Dawson Leery Oct 2016 #51
+1, THOSE POLLS USED THE 2004 LV MODEL !!!! As if there was no critical mass of PoC in 2006!!! uponit7771 Oct 2016 #52
My totally unscientific observation gwheezie Oct 2016 #53
Yeah, you been around here for a minute or so.. denbot Oct 2016 #56
Nate Silver is a patient of yours??? Retired George Oct 2016 #57
It isn't enough to just beat Trump... WiffenPoof Oct 2016 #58
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