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This election is a binary event. Calling for Obama's defeat *IS* advocating for Romney's victory. [View all] scheming daemons Jun 2012 OP

+1,000. K & R. freshwest Jun 2012 #1

What is the +1000 for? rhett o rick Jun 2012 #16

Apparently it would be to a Harvard professor advocating the defeat of a Democrat. CakeGrrl Jun 2012 #39

In binary, that's only 8, tclambert Jun 2012 #110

He is a tenured Harvard professor bluestateguy Jun 2012 #2

That's always true, ever four years DavidDvorkin Jun 2012 #3

what a system! nt tomp Jun 2012 #112

I wish we had a parliamentary system DavidDvorkin Jun 2012 #127

Ah... The Simple Life... WillyT Jun 2012 #4

Yeah, ProSense Jun 2012 #7

Well... I WILL Be Staying At Home... WillyT Jun 2012 #8

Same as you ProSense Jun 2012 #10

I flirted briefly with voting 3rd-Party in November. But then I watched one coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #104

It's like fifty shades of gray, or something. nt OnyxCollie Jun 2012 #12

Beautiful photography! kentuck Jun 2012 #18

You Are Quite Welcome !!! - Here's More: WillyT Jun 2012 #19

Bookmarked. kentuck Jun 2012 #25

Consider, too, that we see less than 10% of the electromagnetic spectrum. TahitiNut Jun 2012 #24

You consistently amaze me with your ability to be obtuse. MjolnirTime Jun 2012 #37

You've Been Consistently Amazed Since October ??? WillyT Jun 2012 #42

Hit the nail right on the head, didn't I? MjolnirTime Jun 2012 #61

Actually, WillyT, this has nothing to do with politics, but somehow to call those photos JDPriestly Jun 2012 #45

Most Excellent Observation !!! WillyT Jun 2012 #54

Informed liberals are going to see rudycantfail Jun 2012 #90

Completely, absolutely, 100% wrong. Zoeisright Jun 2012 #101

The Democratic leadership is not concerned rudycantfail Jun 2012 #114

he's likely to pick centrist judges, imo. nt tomp Jun 2012 #116

What a ridiculous statement. How Nader-esque. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #117

please be careful not to confuse your opinion with fact. just sayin'. nt tomp Jun 2012 #115

Sometimes it is simple treestar Jun 2012 #108

Yeah. but ProSense Jun 2012 #5

That sounds like a logical and rational argument... kentuck Jun 2012 #6

The professor should keep his opinions to himself until Pres. Obama is re-elected. BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #13

I resent those, like Unger, with their protected jobs cally Jun 2012 #9

Precisely. The people who make these observations are likely doing well. joshcryer Jun 2012 #21

Absofreakinloutly Inkfreak Jun 2012 #68

+1 JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #77

Cally, I wish I could frame this, or at the very least, recommend it. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #121

He's not the first Harvard professor to throw a bomb during the waning years. aikoaiko Jun 2012 #11

That is true. So it makes me wonder, what was his point? Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #14

So what is your objective here? To clarify to the "smart" liberals that they have no rhett o rick Jun 2012 #15

November you vote for the Democrat jeff47 Jun 2012 #26

Who are you arguing with? nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #32

You. You claim the OP is designed to piss off liberals jeff47 Jun 2012 #33

And I guess you think that liberals dont get that. nm rhett o rick Jun 2012 #48

If they did, they'd show up on primary day. Yet they don't show up. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2012 #49

This is an amusing post. The other day, I read a post from a DUer who claims to be an ardent Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #79

Your anecdote clearly trumps statistics. :sarcasm: (nt) jeff47 Jun 2012 #83

Actually, primary day is too late. We need a lot of progressives to show up at Democratic Clubs JDPriestly Jun 2012 #46

One step at a time jeff47 Jun 2012 #50

You really need to learn that you don't represent all liberals. TheWraith Jun 2012 #28

!! Number23 Jun 2012 #59

Another gem I wish I could rec! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #122

it'd only piss you off if it was accurate and hit a nerve... too fucking bad dionysus Jun 2012 #36

Sorry. Oversimplification. FBaggins Jun 2012 #17

Don't agree ProSense Jun 2012 #20

Prosense speaks the basic truth, as does the OP. It's just a fact. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #27

But Unger and those who feel like he does are people we have to deal with. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #47

We cannot change Unger's mind. His heart & thoughts are about Brazil; Romney has Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #128

I wonder about this quakerboy Jun 2012 #132

You move the party in the primaries jeff47 Jun 2012 #22

and, some imbeciles think throwing the govt to the repukes will result in a great depression which dionysus Jun 2012 #40

That's the historical materialist roadmap and it's not been historically accurate. joshcryer Jun 2012 #23

Yes, the country is much more left wing now as a result of 2.8 million liberals voting for Nader TrollBuster9090 Jun 2012 #44

You and Thom Hartmann say this. It all majes sense to me. chknltl Jun 2012 #126

Thank you! TrollBuster9090 Jun 2012 #133

Or, he sees an advantage for his home country, Brazil, if Romney is elected. pnwmom Jun 2012 #29

STFU and vote a straight Democratic ballot! xtraxritical Jun 2012 #30

We should change our election system so we don't need to have this conversation anymore. limpyhobbler Jun 2012 #31

You will never get such a system from the Democrats or Republicans jeff47 Jun 2012 #34

Yep. You're pretty much stuck with it. laundry_queen Jun 2012 #81

thats a fine idea but no one will allow that to happen. dionysus Jun 2012 #41

Unfortunately, changing our election system requires actually WINNING elections and assuming power. TrollBuster9090 Jun 2012 #51

I agree with what you say. nt laundry_queen Jun 2012 #82

It should be obvious, but apparently not for some even now. CakeGrrl Jun 2012 #35

Heads like Holes MjolnirTime Jun 2012 #38

True. Good argument. Any other suggestions in case this does not convince people? JDPriestly Jun 2012 #43

Copying what I replied to you in another thread jeff47 Jun 2012 #52

Great post. Thanks. That's what I am trying to do. And I plan to keep trying. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #63

Carl Sagan called "If/Then" an invalid attempt at argument. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #53

Save for one thing DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #55

All "leaders" must be held accountable by the people they supposedly represent Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #58

Pressure vs not voting DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #62

Obviously we need a new model which will obsolete the old. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #66

There is no way to pressure a politician other than votes and money. TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #73

what I mean DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #113

I don't buy your premise because it really makes no sense. TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #134

reply DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #135

I remember when the sentiment, "you're either with or against us" disgusted Marr Jun 2012 #56

Presidential elections are one of the rare cases where it applies. scheming daemons Jun 2012 #69

Wow-- that's a pretty enormous exception. Marr Jun 2012 #84

Naaahhh, that's only when a Republican says it. Beacool Jun 2012 #87

If only the collective would explain their rules in advance so that we could all march in lock-step AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #95

I'm a rebel at heart. Beacool Jun 2012 #102

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #57

2 to 4 Supreme Court justice nominations is enough for me.... Rowdyboy Jun 2012 #60

there are two kinds of people that understand binary Evasporque Jun 2012 #64

There are 10 kinds of people in the world,... GarroHorus Jun 2012 #65

If you absolutely must put time and energy into this corrupt, bought-and-sold system Fire Walk With Me Jun 2012 #67

So using that logic, calling for a victory for the people of this country means, MadHound Jun 2012 #70

Are you calling for the defeat of both Romney and Obama?...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #71

It certainly would be a victory for the people, don't you agree? MadHound Jun 2012 #72

Great, we're all waiting for a plan from you on how your ideal candidate can win in November. stevenleser Jun 2012 #78

This election is a binary event. OnyxCollie Jun 2012 #86

So some self important Harvard Professor isn't happy with Obama WI_DEM Jun 2012 #74

Only on Huffington Post, apparently. MineralMan Jun 2012 #76

Precisely. nt MineralMan Jun 2012 #75

True. It's game theory played out on a political level. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #80

We know how to get out of this jeff47 Jun 2012 #85

So "Libruls" are the problem?!?!? Riiiiight. nt shcrane71 Jun 2012 #91

No, Liberals not showing up to vote is. jeff47 Jun 2012 #92

It was the "moderates" who failed to turn out for the last mid-term elections. /nt Marr Jun 2012 #93

Moderate turnout was down compared to 2008. Liberal turnout was down more. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2012 #106

That's not what I'd read-- do you happen to have Marr Jun 2012 #107

Not in a convenient link. jeff47 Jun 2012 #111

I'm sorry, but it sounds like you sifted the information to Marr Jun 2012 #119

They didn't fail to do so in the WI Recall. Stop blaming Liberals. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #98

So the WI Recall was a primary election? jeff47 Jun 2012 #105

You're out-of-touch. Ignore the record turnout in WI, but others won't. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #130

Again, they show up when it's exciting. jeff47 Jun 2012 #131

"Stop" not knowing the difference between a "primary" and a "recall" election. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #124

I work in UC Berkeley lunatica Jun 2012 #88

It is not a binary event. NCTraveler Jun 2012 #89

Exactly Teamster Jeff Jun 2012 #94

"Reorientation" of the Democratic Party makes some big assumptions CakeGrrl Jun 2012 #96

Which might well motivate a stronger progressive movement. One never knows... n/t jtuck004 Jun 2012 #97

An Obama loss will lead to a "reorientation" all right: a reorientation to the right, NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #129

The obvious flaw in your header: truedelphi Jun 2012 #99

True. And remember the "free trade" agreements. Three more added. Another is on its way. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #103

Good post. bigwillq Jun 2012 #123

AND, as any long term Party Activist KNOWS, bvar22 Jun 2012 #100

Is this addressed to Unger? DireStrike Jun 2012 #109

I agree. But, will add, criticizing a policy position of Obama is not calling for his defeat nor morningfog Jun 2012 #118

This thread is awesome... SidDithers Jun 2012 #120

Which begs the question, why would they wanna post here? If they agree with Unger, how is...... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #125