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elleng

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81. As I recall, Lakoff spoke at a conference or was hired by Dems for a while

Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:40 AM

Jun 2012

a few (?) years ago, after which they simply IGNORED him and his advice. Something seriously WRONG there.

Here's a little something I found, from 2005, quoting from The Atlantic: 'Some liberals ridicule Lakoff as what Bai called a “new progressive icon.” In the April issue of The Atlantic, contributing editor Marc Cooper wrote that Lakoff sees the American people as, Ã¢€œRed-neck, chain-smoking, baby-slapping Christers desperately in need of some gender-free nurturing and political counseling by organic-gardening enthusiasts from Berkeley.'

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/george_lakoff_-_teaching_democrats_to_talk_to_americans/

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What's clear is that Democratic Party messaging is woefully inadequate [View all] MrScorpio Jun 2012 OP

You've hit the nail on the head. THAT is the biggest problem with the Dems these Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #1

Only thing that can beat money is a well defined populist platform newthinking Jun 2012 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author newthinking Jun 2012 #23

democrats have a message? nt msongs Jun 2012 #2

We define issues in 16/32nds... kentuck Jun 2012 #3

I agree, Democrats have failed miserably in framing and conveying their message, elleng Jun 2012 #4

It would help if they had a message. One, that consisted of more than "Not as bad". Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #5

I admire you, Mr. Scorpio! senseandsensibility Jun 2012 #6

we are going to take a pounding KT2000 Jun 2012 #7

Republicans Use Corporate Marketing Ideas DallasNE Jun 2012 #30

I am so glad you posted this... nenagh Jun 2012 #8

YES YES YES a thousand times YES laundry_queen Jun 2012 #28

Well put. I dislike the whole idea of a 'negative ad' as opposed to a 'positive ad.' For me, there coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #33

Yes, continue the Bain ads and go right after the Republican EXTREMISM. Attack the Republican BRAND. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #36

And they are woefully under funded compared to the idiot on the right! There is no way in teddy51 Jun 2012 #9

No, it is not that doom and gloom at all. He will win, but it will be a fight. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #37

The biggest problem is that Republicans own 95% of the media, snot Jun 2012 #10

BINGO. This is the problem. BlueCaliDem Jun 2012 #14

Yes, so that tells me that the first thing Democrats need to do is STOP BLAMING OBAMA!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #54

BINGO. That was my first thought - 6 large corprats ProfessionalLeftist Jun 2012 #18

The Right Wing literally has two dedicated channels in Fox and CNBC. HughBeaumont Jun 2012 #47

if a treefalls in the forest and the media won't report it rurallib Jun 2012 #49

Too many of the people supposedly on our side have sold out. Maybe the message we'd brewens Jun 2012 #11

My analysis is... ljm2002 Jun 2012 #12

I think money needs to come out first so that politicians can jp11 Jun 2012 #13

I've said it before on this forum. It was rejected. But I heard Howard Dean say it to Elliot Spitzer Gregorian Jun 2012 #15

It's not just a matter of sound-bites, though you're right as far as that goes; snot Jun 2012 #17

Exactly. Gregorian Jun 2012 #20

How about six words? eridani Jun 2012 #38

Arrrgh! We're gonna lose! All is forlorn! longship Jun 2012 #16

Kelly's Heroes MrScorpio Jun 2012 #25

A great, totally anachronistic, flick longship Jun 2012 #26

So you think discussing it is wrong? WTF? Logical Jun 2012 #46

And I will say it again DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #19

Maybe, and hire Howard Dean and George Lakoff. elleng Jun 2012 #21

Yes Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2012 #77

YES and YES!!! calimary Jun 2012 #80

As I recall, Lakoff spoke at a conference or was hired by Dems for a while elleng Jun 2012 #81

RE-ELECT OBAMA! pinboy3niner Jun 2012 #22

3 Most important things. NUMBERS, NUMBERS, NUMBERS! ErikJ Jun 2012 #27

Your neighbors don't give a shit about laundry lists of facts. eridani Jun 2012 #41

the first step is we need to stop the bad messaging hfojvt Jun 2012 #29

Questions: MrScorpio Jun 2012 #34

the point is about voters, not about elected officials hfojvt Jun 2012 #58

My point has always been about elected officials MrScorpio Jun 2012 #63

he's not obscure to me hfojvt Jun 2012 #74

I think you;re trolling. You reject attacking the horrid right wing then you say you don't trust our RBInMaine Jun 2012 #39

Spam deleted by tjwmason (MIR Team) Stephanie69 Jun 2012 #31

I think there are three problems. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #32

This shit about the 2 parties are just the same is total crap. So enough of that. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #40

That's not what he said, and ignoring the matter just feeds the meme JHB Jun 2012 #44

Ouch, but oh so true. Said well. Lionessa Jun 2012 #43

You're totally on point. nt Raine Jun 2012 #35

There's a simple difference in the Parties. kentuck Jun 2012 #42

It has competing messages. mmonk Jun 2012 #45

Too bad middle America's not down with this slogan: HughBeaumont Jun 2012 #48

Democrats are missing the boat on public transportation. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #50

How's this for a message: JHB Jun 2012 #51

The Privileged Few Peaceful Protester Jun 2012 #52

The Democrats should have rejected the notion of austerity from the beginning. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #53

It's INTENTIONALLY inadequate, via the DLC Third-Wayers. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #55

Here's a message: ***Pass the AMERICAN JOBS ACT*** Martin Eden Jun 2012 #56

Something to think about... Peaceful Protester Jun 2012 #57

The party needs better leadership experienced in traditional and new media ... Auggie Jun 2012 #59

The use of different words may not help treestar Jun 2012 #60

Democratic strategist Bob Shrum said Peaceful Protester Jun 2012 #61

Income Inequality Peaceful Protester Jun 2012 #62

No, Axelrod, Obama and Clinton are doing just what they need to do. The battle is uphill because McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #64

Beg to differ....Repukes CAN NOT STAND Axelrod. He's just too obviously political - and Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2012 #78

Message one: the GOP wants to chainsaw massacre Medicare. McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #65

Message two: Obama wants to save Medicare. McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #66

Message three: the GOP wants to make your daughter give birth out of wedlock. McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #67

Message four: Obama understands and cares about women. McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #68

Message five: the Democrats welcome hard working latino immigrants to the country McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #69

Message six (some of you won't like it), Democrats are the party that ACTS like true Christians. McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #70

Message seven: The GOP will send your son and daughter to fight in Iran. McCamy Taylor Jun 2012 #71

That's because the corporate media One of the 99 Jun 2012 #72

From another post in GD - flamingdem Jun 2012 #73

Democrats talk logic. Republicans talk emotions. Emotions win everytime. Kablooie Jun 2012 #75

put Dean back in charge of the party #1. He's brilliant, quick, and savvy. Saw Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2012 #76

I'm aware that ... sendero Jun 2012 #79

Policies: Republican vs. Democrat Peaceful Protester Jun 2012 #82