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In reply to the discussion: Can we craft a stronger economic justice message WITHOUT throwing anyone under the bus? [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)21. What were we suppose to do, have Hillary vilify the woman?
The best approach is to defend the activist tradition as a vital part of the American story. We're supposed to be the party of change, activism is just part of that.
We can make a case that changing the country for the better is actually a good thing.
BTW, it wasn't protest that caused the '72 Nixon landslide-it was the China trip and the regular Dems totally unjustifiable iinsistence on cutting our nominee loose that did that. We'd have done just as badly if Scoop Jackson or Hubert Humphrey had been imposed as nominees and if every speech at the convention had demonized hippies, blacks, feminists and "peaceniks".
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Can we craft a stronger economic justice message WITHOUT throwing anyone under the bus? [View all]
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
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You are right, of course, and thanks for the truth, but that poster won't listen.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#7
If your purpose on this planet is to breath life into the right's favorite Nixon era strawmen
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#11
There's no way to "cleave away" from the left and still be different from the right.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#18
We don't even have an opportunity to tailor our message in that way
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#16
And every ''center-left" party in Europe is in long-term and irreversible decline.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#24
There's no one to Corbyn's right who'd have Labour in a stronger place in the polls.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#36
Any Labour leader holding May firmly to account on Brexit would poll stronger
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#48
Long term and irreversible? Show us your crystal ball and we might believe that.
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#39
No.Center Left has control of parliaments in France & Italy, part of government in Belgium & Germany
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#44
Hollande's party is way behind in the polls and has no chance of recovering before the next election
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#45
After just winning an election in France. You can't claim what you wrote based on
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#46
Here is the polling in the run-up to the German election, which will happen this year:
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#50
I think I have proven you wrong on all of that. But here is the bigger joke. What is the far left
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#59
LBJ saw the southern strategy coming and stood on the right side of justice anyway
loyalsister
Dec 2016
#28
We don't have an opportunity to distance ourselves or demonize them
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#34
No, the topic is, "Are protests now counterproductive?" The GOP seems to have a strategy
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#40
The original response I replied to was a photo demonizing a specific protester
loyalsister
Dec 2016
#47
Whether you choose to acknowledge this or not those types of images are a problem
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#49
There is no progressive cause that is well served by helping elect Republicans
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#54
Trump owns everyone on the right, most of whom are far scarier than one harmless faculty advisor.
Ken Burch
Dec 2016
#12
You're right, we can't gain votes doing that. We have no control of the narrative.
Sen. Walter Sobchak
Dec 2016
#20
Yep. And I never expected that to be advocated by a group numbering more than 1 or 2 here. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#41