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ret5hd

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40. Symmetry, yes. Alike, no.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:53 PM
Dec 2016

Their "fear" of Obama was not based on fear of his policies truly destroying the country. In fact, much is not "fear" at all. Frustration maybe, but not "fear". From the pols and rich, frustration of their inability to gut ACA, Medicare, Medicaid, SS, etc and grab those last evasive dollars with their bloody red hands. There was no "fear" of the country collapsing into chaos or tragedy. Those fears simply weren't there. Nobody truly thought that ever-so-slightly more stringent air/water regulations were going to strangle the country and plunge it into a dystopian hellhole...they might truly disagree but did not "fear". The same can be said for policies regarding inheritance taxes, unemployment insurance, and myriad others. If there was any "fear" it was fear that these policies would prove popular and effective, thus subjecting any of their future pronouncements to deeper scrutiny.

Amongst us hoi-polloi, those who are neither rich nor powerful, there was no widespread fear of nuclear destruction. There was true fear of losing a job (and all that can accompany that situation). A truly respectful fear that is. A fear all of us may have felt, coal miner or no. But a "fear" of BLM? No. A "fear" of clean water regulations? No. A "fear" of Grandma getting too much healthcare from Medicare? No. A "fear" of political correctness? No.

I submit that the fears of Trump, while symmetrical, are objectively different than the fears of Obama/Clinton/Dems-In-General. The fears of Trump are based on "the world", fairness, sustainability, equality.

Theirs, amongst the pols and rich, are based on simple greed. The hindrance we are to their squeezing the last of our dignity from us till we fall to our knees pleading for any small crumb of sustenance. Amongst the more common (but Republican) folk, theirs is a more personal fear. Jobs, identity, a place in the world. But they don't "fear" not being able to call a Black "that word". It pisses them off, but that's not fear.

I know I know...way too rambling and disjointed. But I think you get my drift.

Geez, Bradical79 said in 1/4 of the words what I was trying to say.

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That is the problem with the media in general, they intentionally avoid context, which Steve Marmel still_one Dec 2016 #1
It's a trap. brer cat Dec 2016 #5
Of course it is a trap, you're right still_one Dec 2016 #72
It's like the one question I hate getting from pollsters. progressoid Dec 2016 #62
I take surveys on YouGov and every time they do that I put comments on at the end of Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #78
Heheh! JawJaw Dec 2016 #83
Fail WORSE than miserably! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #77
Trump wants America to fail liberal N proud Dec 2016 #2
They won't have to FORCE anyone to work for pennies Auntie Bush Dec 2016 #16
By force, I was thinking along that line liberal N proud Dec 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Dec 2016 #51
Hammer meet nail. lark Dec 2016 #43
you are so right Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #61
a most important exposition to print and carry bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #3
I want Trump to quietly resign the presidency... SylviaD Dec 2016 #4
We'd all love that! Auntie Bush Dec 2016 #17
I want a unicorn! brooklynboy49 Dec 2016 #26
Your sarcasm is NOT appreciated. nt SylviaD Jan 2017 #85
I'd take a Gerald Ford. hunter Dec 2016 #57
I want them not to be the clusterfucks that I think they will be of the two I think yours cstanleytech Dec 2016 #68
I want trump and pence and ryan and the whole motley crew in jail. niyad Dec 2016 #73
Eugene Robinson (Wah. Post): lastlib Dec 2016 #6
Love Eugene Robinson brooklynboy49 Dec 2016 #28
Its pretty simple - if Trump "wins" this country gets fucked Cosmocat Dec 2016 #7
Only one third of the country sees that? maddiemom Dec 2016 #9
The math on November 8th was pretty clear Cosmocat Dec 2016 #11
By all the reasons Trump secured the Presidency, the country HAS ALREADY FailureToCommunicate Dec 2016 #8
Yep Cosmocat Dec 2016 #12
McConnell said he wanted Obama to be a 'One term President' Stellar Dec 2016 #10
At a bare minimum democrats Cosmocat Dec 2016 #15
With Chuck Schumer in charge in the Senate, lark Dec 2016 #44
the likely scenario Cosmocat Dec 2016 #47
I want America to thrive. I want Trump to do good & right things Bucky Dec 2016 #13
i hope his message of hate, misogyny and racism fails miserably. this is not a 'normal' election spanone Dec 2016 #14
Depends on the definition of "success" Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #18
Dear America, world wide wally Dec 2016 #19
The one question that was missing do you support a serial predator turbinetree Dec 2016 #20
Wake up, Democrats. Trump isn't set to improve on inauguration day. Paladin Dec 2016 #21
i agree lancelyons Dec 2016 #24
When you alienate more than 50% of the countries population democratisphere Dec 2016 #22
I do want him to advance the country. lancelyons Dec 2016 #23
Trump will fail in HIS objectives whether we want him to or Not. cheyanne Dec 2016 #25
America has already failed by putting Trump in office. With due reservations about Godwin's law... NNadir Dec 2016 #27
If this country fails under Trump, it depends how far gone it is. no_hypocrisy Dec 2016 #29
Want him to fail at deportation of Latinos, hate legislation, big tax cuts, etc. But, otherwise, no. Hoyt Dec 2016 #30
Yes, I want Trump to fail. SamKnause Dec 2016 #32
If you read this thread, you can actually see many of the same arguments the republicans hughee99 Dec 2016 #33
So you consider Obamas and Trumps policies are equivalent? ret5hd Dec 2016 #34
No not at all. hughee99 Dec 2016 #35
That's a stupid oversimplification Bradical79 Dec 2016 #38
Yup snort Dec 2016 #39
I'm not saying everyone made this generalization, but many did. hughee99 Dec 2016 #42
Symmetry, yes. Alike, no. ret5hd Dec 2016 #40
Their fear was absolutely based on a fear of his "policies" destroying the country. hughee99 Dec 2016 #46
This is about so much more than the difference beween... 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #63
Yes gopiscrap Dec 2016 #36
Trump's policies are bad for America Gothmog Dec 2016 #37
K & R Scurrilous Dec 2016 #41
No we don't want him to fail. We just don't want him to louis-t Dec 2016 #45
Simply because we don't want fascism and racism to succeed. pressbox69 Dec 2016 #48
I want tRump (Drumpf) to succeed. Then I can hold his feet to the fire. ffr Dec 2016 #49
ANYONE who paid attentio to Dump's campaign NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #50
Dems need a serious wave election in 2020 to undo the gerrymandering MrPurple Dec 2016 #52
"Do we want Trump to fail?" A Massive Heart Attack will do. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #53
Besides ... lillypaddle Dec 2016 #54
YES! Cattledog Dec 2016 #55
YES MFM008 Dec 2016 #56
It doesn't matter what we want. LisaL Dec 2016 #58
Pence is just as bad. zentrum Dec 2016 #59
I want him to lose his fingers in a golf course ball washer accident Warpy Dec 2016 #60
In a Word: YES! Ocelot Aardvark Dec 2016 #64
welcome to DU gopiscrap Dec 2016 #84
YES! And I DO NOT want to have a beer with Orange Pustule Hitler either. Ever! LOCK HIM UP MarinCoUSA Dec 2016 #65
Fantastic post! My sentiments exactly. Gerrymandering is the only reason that asshole is where he is judesedit Dec 2016 #66
Today I woke up thinking this exact same thing lunatica Dec 2016 #67
Absolutely! Block him on everything, total fail!!! Nt adigal Dec 2016 #69
It's not a question of wanting Trump to fail jmowreader Dec 2016 #70
Yes. (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #71
This is what Rush Limbaugh said about Obama oberliner Dec 2016 #74
TRUMP HAS ALREADY FAILED Skittles Dec 2016 #75
Cone on 2016, you still have a chance at a small redemption. nt fleabiscuit Dec 2016 #76
That Will Happen Without Any Help From Us n/t DallasNE Dec 2016 #79
Yeah, sure. You betcha! world wide wally Dec 2016 #80
I wish him as much success as the reTHUGS wanted Obama Raine Dec 2016 #81
Fail at destroying all civilization on Earth? Yes, I want him to fail at that... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #82
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