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In reply to the discussion: Van Jones on Democratic Partys Future: The Clinton Days Are Over You Cant Run and Hide [View all]yurbud
(39,405 posts)20. When Democrats do something right, they apologize for it. When Republicans do something wrong...
they double down.
And Democrats wonder why a party whose policies only benefit the 1% keep cleaning their clocks in elections.
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Alekzander
Jan 2017
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I know & agree. It is hard to understand how the Dems let that part get away so easy. They should
Alekzander
Jan 2017
#5
The Dems don't have a set of Koch Brothers to catapult the propaganda, Alekzander. That seems
Hekate
Jan 2017
#97
When Democrats do something right, they apologize for it. When Republicans do something wrong...
yurbud
Jan 2017
#20
Actually, I think it is delusional to say his analysis borders on delusional. Van unlike many has
Alekzander
Jan 2017
#10
But Van seems to give Obama a pass on DNC and blames it all on HRC. Obama is the one who appointed
Justice
Jan 2017
#15
Agreed. There's lots and lots of bashing to go around in the present cluster fuck.
paleotn
Jan 2017
#19
I think it's safe to say that Hillary would have voted for the bill, but it's Jones
lapucelle
Jan 2017
#53
Bob Somerby was not defending the crime bill or the repeal of Glass-Steagall.
lapucelle
Jan 2017
#64
I wasn't aware of him, that's the most balanced commentary on those issues I've read.
JHan
Jan 2017
#66
Bob Somerby is daily read for me. He's a liberal critic of the liberal media,
lapucelle
Jan 2017
#101
I suspect he is on CNN for a reason-- because he will help undermine Dems
Fast Walker 52
Jan 2017
#45
That's funny, there i was thinking the rest of brass in Democratic party had it well in hand
nolabels
Jan 2017
#52
the fact is moderate Dems are the ones who've gotten elected President recently
Fast Walker 52
Jan 2017
#69
Yes, artful indeed. Because he says a lot of good things, while putting out crap like this (the OP)
Fast Walker 52
Jan 2017
#131
Jones was talking about current putative problems in the perception of the Democratic
lapucelle
Jan 2017
#58
What did we do wrong? Hard to say because the election was STOLEN. The Putin/Trump war room
AnotherMother4Peace
Jan 2017
#3
Funny, the Republicans seem to have a habit of not being on the American side...
paleotn
Jan 2017
#21
Absolutely agree. There is always a time for those to move on & that does not take away from the
Alekzander
Jan 2017
#8
I'm sure the Clinton's agree. Don't think it's in her plans to run again. Sanders OTOH. . . ?
brush
Jan 2017
#56
Yep. You know they've adopted right wing narratives when they've adopted GOP mangled grammar.
SunSeeker
Jan 2017
#74
More Progressive is the way to go. The Clinton's had a great run-time for some new blood.
jalan48
Jan 2017
#25
Definitely time for the Dem Party to move Right to capture those rural & red low information states
Hekate
Jan 2017
#95
a Clinton is so Scary that Republicans had to turn to Putin to keep her out of office. So sad. n/t
delisen
Jan 2017
#30
Sanders is talking about more sucking up to white working class men who voted for Trump
bigtree
Jan 2017
#32
Sanders is talking about more sucking up to white working class men who voted for Trump.
LenaBaby61
Jan 2017
#34
True there Warren. Gavin & Kamala are like CA, forward thinking, young & strong leaders that has
Alekzander
Jan 2017
#44
You make good points. One thing that should be remembered, though, outside the specific presidential
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2017
#47
Well, you & I are on the same page, agree totally especially the messaging part. Also, yes,
Alekzander
Jan 2017
#57
he has led on issues like marriage equality and cannabis legalization. Ahead of the curve.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2017
#134
Only supported Clinton in primaries/general cause she was choice left after O'Malley
KittyWampus
Jan 2017
#46
Now we have a leadership vacuum, but that also provides an opportunity for us to decide what we
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2017
#48
Warren that is correct like how the Brooklyn Clinton Headquarters ignored the campaign workers on
Alekzander
Jan 2017
#61
Jones is mostly correct, but it remains to be seen how much $$$ the Clinton Foundation will be able
aikoaiko
Jan 2017
#49
You don't have a single damned clue what the Clinton Foundation actually does; do you?
Maru Kitteh
Jan 2017
#70
The fact of HRC for the most votes on the primaries and the most votes in the
Thinkingabout
Jan 2017
#60
Bill Clinton's influence on the party resulted in winning the popular vote 6 of the last 7 elections
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#82
We lost in 2000, 2004, and now 2016. And that's ignoring state-level results, which have been worse.
killbotfactory
Jan 2017
#103
Stop trying to use melodrama to try to overcome facts. It makes you look silly and it won't work.
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#104
"a lot of Democrats simply undervote and leave the lower races blank on their ballots"
killbotfactory
Jan 2017
#107
And by the way, see Sunseeker's #93 above. We don't have to guess what the people want.
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#106
Yes, all of a sudden everyone thinks they are smarter than pollsters and can ignore the one piece
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#114
Wow. I never would have guessed how easy it would be for some to throw him under the bus.
aikoaiko
Jan 2017
#102
What you call throwing under the bus, I call disagreeing because he is wrong. No big deal. nt
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#105
Calling his point delusional, bizarre, RW talking points not throwing him under the bus?
aikoaiko
Jan 2017
#109
I would say his point is definitely bizarre given history. Disagree with delusional. Could be
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#110