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57. That town hall is for selling his book

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Why didn't Bernie join the congress members who tried to prevent Trump from being certified? [View all] ecstatic Jan 2017 OP

Maybe he called a few election lawyers and asked was there a case to me made... nycbos Jan 2017 #1

Shhh. . .that's called logic. And professional Bernie Haters don't like that Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #32

+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #59

For the record I supported Hillary in the primary. nycbos Jan 2017 #66

That's not "logic". It's a mistake. Because it's FACT that a significant number of Republican KittyWampus Jan 2017 #68

Except there is the legal fact the electors were not qualified. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #67

No, there was an internet allegation that the electors were not qualified. brooklynite Jan 2017 #69

They were posted here multiple times. Why are you even responding if you aren't KittyWampus Jan 2017 #71

Democrats should try to win elections instead of farting 'round with bureaucracies. Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #107

There has to be a reason none of the Senators showed. Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #77

Exact same scenario played out in 2001. No senators stood up... tandem5 Jan 2017 #154

Maybe is the operative word treestar Jan 2017 #100

Maybe if I'm Sanders I would fight just to be seen and heard no matter the futility. tandem5 Jan 2017 #151

KNR Lucinda Jan 2017 #2

Mind boggling, where was Elizabeth Warren, Al Franken..................? doc03 Jan 2017 #3

Good Question but... LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #8

Super Bernie! Able to get everything passed with a single vote Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #33

That's what his supporters said about him treestar Jan 2017 #101

Yep. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #103

Actually.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #164

Yes they did. He was touted as treestar Jan 2017 #169

BS.... LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #170

Oh baloney treestar Jan 2017 #172

Bernie's supposed to be different, isn't he? EffieBlack Jan 2017 #22

;) sheshe2 Jan 2017 #27

It's a fair question... I'd like to hear Bernie's explanation. After all, his political sense is second to none. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #29

The only reason he is "different" is that "I" is there and not a "D" Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #34

+1 treestar Jan 2017 #102

Neither Warren nor Franken have made a habit over the decades of trashing the Democrats KittyWampus Jan 2017 #70

That was my question as well. Forget Sanders, he's an independent. But what about SlimJimmy Jan 2017 #157

Good question.. Cha Jan 2017 #4

Good question. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2017 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author truebluegreen Jan 2017 #141

Makes you wonder. Kath2 Jan 2017 #6

That's a fair question and hopefully someone will ask Bernie at his town hall on Monday NWCorona Jan 2017 #7

No. They're mostly pragmatists, so going along with the ecstatic Jan 2017 #13

That town hall is for selling his book Gothmog Jan 2017 #57

That doesn't bother me. NWCorona Jan 2017 #72

Have you bought his latest book yet? Gothmog Jan 2017 #73

Nah, I didn't buy his last book. Did you? NWCorona Jan 2017 #79

Sanders does have anything to say that I care about Gothmog Jan 2017 #124

Nowhere did I say the circumstances are the same. When Hillary said that NWCorona Jan 2017 #128

There was no chance of Sanders being the nominee after Super Tuesday Gothmog Jan 2017 #133

I can concede that it became mathematically impossible for Bernie to win NWCorona Jan 2017 #135

I remember in June 2008 HRC saying she's still in because Obama could end up like Bobby Kennedy aikoaiko Jan 2017 #81

Read the timeline in the LA Times article Gothmog Jan 2017 #122

That timeline is meaningless and a Rorschach test for primary partisans. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #127

Facts are very relevant to this thread Gothmog Jan 2017 #129

The facts are they both got out toward the end of the primary race. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #131

The timeline and the facts show a very different response in the real world Gothmog Jan 2017 #134

Not really -- but the bitterness will go away eventually. There is hope for you. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #136

Given that many blame Sanders for Trump's win, that is not likely Gothmog Jan 2017 #143

Oh Gothmog, only the zealous Clinton loyalists blame Bernie. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #145

Really? To give you a flavor, here are the comments of a member of the DNC about Ellison Gothmog Jan 2017 #148

Exactly, the person you quote and strangely didn't bold is "Im a Hillary person." aikoaiko Jan 2017 #149

Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Jan 2017 #150

Well, Democratic leadership invited Bernie on board. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #155

We will see Gothmog Jan 2017 #160

Its ok. We'll make, drink, and bath in lemonade with those angry tears. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #166

It will be a long four years under Trump and many will not forget Sanders role in helping trump win Gothmog Jan 2017 #168

It might be that Sanders knew better how to speak to his supporters than you karynnj Jan 2017 #144

I was a delegate to the national convention and to deal with bernie supporters/delegates Gothmog Jan 2017 #146

So, there was no chance of bias in what the Clinton team told you karynnj Jan 2017 #161

Oh, Bernie was supposed to stand up for Hillary. HassleCat Jan 2017 #9

Yeah - cos today was all about Hillary. FFS. nt pkdu Jan 2017 #16

It's really not about Hillary, although she was screwed/disrespected "big league" ecstatic Jan 2017 #18

Maybe he's picking his battles. Chemisse Jan 2017 #10

this is one of em to fight uponit7771 Jan 2017 #14

attempting to keep maggot OUT MFM008 Jan 2017 #19

An odd answer - when Hillary picked HER battles, Bernie's people called her a "sellout." EffieBlack Jan 2017 #23

Revolution? sheshe2 Jan 2017 #31

Bernie is very powerful, politically, right now. Chemisse Jan 2017 #62

So, now that he's so "powerful," he must not exercise that power so that he can stay powerful EffieBlack Jan 2017 #74

Unreal bravenak Jan 2017 #86

Actually, no. He is powerful because the rest of the Party is not. NT Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #112

The Independent Party? nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #152

And when the excuse for him not doing anything is "The rest of the party didn't do anything either" EffieBlack Jan 2017 #162

Wrong again. It is possible everybody's busted watch is right on time. Twice. Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #173

Hillary and Obama are always trashed for that treestar Jan 2017 #104

On another thread it was suggested that vanlassie Jan 2017 #11

A series of wrongs occurred. They should stand up and ecstatic Jan 2017 #37

Yes, he and other Senators could have. elleng Jan 2017 #12

yet he said... sheshe2 Jan 2017 #36

Agree... LovingA2andMI Jan 2017 #58

They just needed ONE Senator to sign on. Sanders should've been the one to step forward, BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #110

Heh-heh. Bernie is supposed to "lead" when all the other Democrats DIDN'T "lead." Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #117

You can't have it both ways. You can't wail that Bernie is the Leader of the Revolution and then BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #119

Fail. Review my answer to EffieBlack. It is absurd to concoct a moral test... Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #132

We're going in circles here. Bernie raged against the establishment machine. He was able to sell you BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #153

Why didn't any of them? onecaliberal Jan 2017 #15

Good question - but not relevant to THIS question EffieBlack Jan 2017 #24

EffieBlack, that sums it up. Democrats across the board didn't move - But it was BERNIE!!!! Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #120

Probably for the SAME reason NONE of them did. So many claim Bernie isn't a real Dem, onecaliberal Jan 2017 #126

they are oligarchs beholden to the corporations treestar Jan 2017 #105

Here is a great audio podcast about it Equinox Moon Jan 2017 #17

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2017 #20

I've been asking the same question EffieBlack Jan 2017 #21

boxer signed on to the challenge in 2005 orleans Jan 2017 #25

Yes, she did. And she's a staunch Democrat and Liberal. I am flabbergasted that one of the loudest BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #109

Because Bernie is fine with the outcome of this election. Don't expect him to go too hard on.... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #26

Really? SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #60

I wonder about that, too, sadly. n/t LisaM Jan 2017 #78

Baloney--He backed HRC and you know it. panader0 Jan 2017 #85

Also note... Mike Nelson Jan 2017 #28

If the situation were reversed True_Blue Jan 2017 #39

I suppose it's nice... Mike Nelson Jan 2017 #50

Hell. PBO might have put her there under those circumstances, out of principle lostnfound Jan 2017 #51

Exactly treestar Jan 2017 #106

On that matter, why didn't more Democrats do it? more Bernie hate and anti-Bernie hit pieces Feeling the Bern Jan 2017 #30

Yup. Behind the Aegis Jan 2017 #45

For whatever reason, none of the Senators did. There are some major battles coming up, everything still_one Jan 2017 #35

Methinks, perhaps, that the uniting you seek is nowhere to be found. Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #38

Let me understand this. Are you saying those that supported Pelosi aren't people. still_one Jan 2017 #43

"The People" (ie the public) did not vote in the Minority leader caucus. Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #165

and who elects those house members, chopped liver? No, people still_one Jan 2017 #167

Perhaps you should consider BainsBane Jan 2017 #46

Which "people" (and how many) are you referring to? George II Jan 2017 #96

Mere change of personnel alone would not do it treestar Jan 2017 #108

"Most of Bernie's platform consists of stuff that will never happen." YOHABLO Jan 2017 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 Jan 2017 #88

"He could have stood up to the GOP today (to make up for not standing up 16 years ago when Bush*" Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #41

Was he one of the reps that stood up back then with the CBC? brush Jan 2017 #54

I don't know. I w.ent and looked up my info. You could look up yours Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #61

I thought about that time also yesterday lunasun Jan 2017 #65

It would have been a total waste of time and went nowhere. phleshdef Jan 2017 #42

Exactly loyalsister Jan 2017 #47

When Hillary picked HER battles and refused to take actions that would have led nowhere EffieBlack Jan 2017 #56

Bernie blah blah blah blah blah phleshdef Jan 2017 #95

Perhaps the Russians hacked for Bernie HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #44

Bernie s Part of the Establishment. Schumer is Leading the establishment in Congress delisen Jan 2017 #48

I lulz'd KG Jan 2017 #49

Because, just like Trump, if he can't lead the parade he's not interested. baldguy Jan 2017 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 Jan 2017 #89

Yes blue cat Jan 2017 #53

Have to keep the powder dry RandiFan1290 Jan 2017 #55

Yup - keep the powder dry for later pragmatism. Something Bernie's not supposed to be about EffieBlack Jan 2017 #75

Glad we are all working so diligently mac56 Jan 2017 #63

This has nothing to do with the primaries. This is about what Bernie didn't do YESTERDAY EffieBlack Jan 2017 #76

In 2000 Bernie was a Congressman not a Senator. Autumn Jan 2017 #64

word G_j Jan 2017 #83

I think the time has passed where Bernie can save us. It's too late. immoderate Jan 2017 #80

Unrec--which senators objected? Oh yeah, none. panader0 Jan 2017 #82

But, I thought he was SUPPOSED to be better Than the rest bravenak Jan 2017 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 Jan 2017 #98

Oh please. Lets not get personal and discuss me instead of the op bravenak Jan 2017 #99

You aren't running for anything... tonedevil Jan 2017 #113

Uh huh bravenak Jan 2017 #115

Same as you... tonedevil Jan 2017 #121

That comes into discussions without a point? I at least start my own topics. bravenak Jan 2017 #123

You can say what you like, tonedevil Jan 2017 #125

Because he is out on the road.. promoting his book, pangaia Jan 2017 #84

Because actually DOING SOMETHING would take away his power to DEMAGOGUE bravenak Jan 2017 #87

Not Walking His Talk Me. Jan 2017 #90

He Never Really Has bravenak Jan 2017 #92

True That Me. Jan 2017 #94

"Revolution" is just a buzz word Generator Jan 2017 #91

Exactly bravenak Jan 2017 #118

I think he had other "priorities". He sure didn't have the interest of the American people in mind. George II Jan 2017 #97

It would've been perfect had ALL Democratic and Independent Senators joined with House Dems BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #111

Very good question, ecstatic. Very good question, indeed. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2017 #114

The real question is... Else You Are Mad Jan 2017 #116

Oh FFS! KPN Jan 2017 #130

Why didn't Senator Clinton stand up in 2001 or 2005? karynnj Jan 2017 #137

Precedent zagamet Jan 2017 #138

Oh for FUCK'S SAKE truebluegreen Jan 2017 #139

Don't blame Bernie for 2000...he wasn't in the Senate then! red dog 1 Jan 2017 #140

It's over. azmom Jan 2017 #142

Probably not for long... FrankfurtCat Jan 2017 #147

It would not have changed anything... congress would then vote by 'state delegation' 4139 Jan 2017 #156

Because it was a fool's errand truebluegreen Jan 2017 #158

Nobody else did, either. alarimer Jan 2017 #159

No one else fought for Single Payer either but that didn't stop y'all from rah-rahing Bernie for EffieBlack Jan 2017 #163

That argument has never stopped Bernie on anything before. It seems pnwmom Jan 2017 #171