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In reply to the discussion: Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence [View all]onenote
(43,108 posts)43. Sorry, but not going to re-hash that debate with you
You made clear in an earlier thread your particular view of what constitutes an anti-democratic feature of the Constitution - a view that virtually everyone else posting rejected. So there's really no point to repeating that exercise again.
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Might have to think about that myself. Cali can stand on its own 6th biggest econ. in the world...
brush
Jan 2017
#28
'it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government!
elleng
Jan 2017
#2
Not petty. Just trying to correct the record for those who might think you were referring
onenote
Jan 2017
#95
I don't feel sorry at all for that traitor. Fu_k him and all of those white supremacists bastards.
brush
Jan 2017
#29
I repeat, fu_k all those white supremacist bastards. Being 99% of anything doesn't excuse it.
brush
Jan 2017
#37
You sound like you're defending it. Again, fu_k white supremacists then and fu_k Bannon and ...
brush
Jan 2017
#68
It'll probably take something like the republican recession of 2007 - 2009 or depression
ffr
Jan 2017
#16
California actually has a case for it if you think about it. Their votes don't even count in the ...
brush
Jan 2017
#31
Aww, you mean you have to convince most people that changed is needed? Yes, that's hard work.
X_Digger
Jan 2017
#53
I believe that fundamental changes to our system of government should req almost unanimous consent.
X_Digger
Jan 2017
#60
Don't like the logical conclusions your ill-thought-out proposals would create? Tough shit.
X_Digger
Jan 2017
#65
Not ONE amendment reformed a core antidemocratic feature in the Constitution...
eniwetok
Jan 2017
#74
So if they don't do something you want, they don't count? They're not "serious reform"??
X_Digger
Jan 2017
#75
Is your definition of "antidemocratic" like your definition of "reformproof"??
X_Digger
Jan 2017
#122
of the smallest 13 states (I assume thats where you get your "4% can block") 6 voted Democratic
Grey Lemercier
Jan 2017
#117
If you want a more democratic system you are going to have to move out of the US
Grey Lemercier
Jan 2017
#125
Your proposal for California to threaten secession was a nonsensical pipe dream
onenote
Jan 2017
#84
well I've eliminated the really stupid plans, which is something you ought to consider doing
onenote
Jan 2017
#88
What then are specific prohibitions that would re-interpret the conflict as illegal
LanternWaste
Jan 2017
#93
if the amendment formula isn't antidemocratic... please define what makes it democratic.
eniwetok
Jan 2017
#49
conversely... government WITHOUT the consent of the governed... is illegitimate n/t
eniwetok
Jan 2017
#50
And until the governed change the system, then this is a government with the consent
onenote
Jan 2017
#56
My "slavish" devotion isn't to the politics of 1787, it's to our particular constitutional system
onenote
Jan 2017
#104
This document is an "address of greviences" to his Majesty King George ...or indictment
Historic NY
Jan 2017
#32
It would be nice if the alternative to one kind of destructive government wasn't a different kind
yurbud
Jan 2017
#63