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62. Oh, I know therre's a lot on the list I forgot

Sat Jan 21, 2017, 12:47 PM

Jan 2017

And one of my main info sources since Bush v. Gore had been DU posters and links, which was my gateway to becoming modestly well informed on what our Kleptocrats have been up to all these decades.

David Pakmaan, Lee Fong, hell, even Jesse Ventura two thirds of the time, Abby Martin, who was specifically targeted in the very recent govt intel report on ruskie election meddling.

They got psyops, the full force of our DEEP STATE, and Republican majorities all over this land. All we got is each other, so we better figure out how to become united for our common interests, instead of squabbling and primitive tribalism over FAKE NEWS.

-90% Jimmy

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I have had it with trashing Michael Moore [View all] jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 OP

Well said. Snackshack Jan 2017 #1

K&R. dchill Jan 2017 #2

Yep. I can't figure out why so many here seem to hate him. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #3

Same reason... kirby Jan 2017 #7

Because the right has relentlessly targeted him for 30 years MrPurple Jan 2017 #97

A lot of DUers turned on MM when he predicted, in September, that Trump would win. CrispyQ Jan 2017 #131

I started to read that some time ago, and stopped. It bummed me out too much. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #156

Here's another great link. CrispyQ Jan 2017 #157

Thanks! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #158

I heard MM had pneumonia when the movie came out & missed some key showings. CrispyQ Jan 2017 #159

Wonder if it's on Amazon Prime? BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #160

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #190

K&R! mrgorth Jan 2017 #4

His speech started out great until he started to trash Democrats. Sorry you don't use the women's still_one Jan 2017 #5

It was like two different speeches! LisaM Jan 2017 #11

He's trying to light a fire under Dems ... Auggie Jan 2017 #12

That wasn't the forum for it, and his endorsement of DNC chair sure was literal. Let me make it cle still_one Jan 2017 #21

+1, we have 3 damn good candidates for running the DNC... no need to trash either one uponit7771 Jan 2017 #32

He can light a fire and be uplifting at the same time uponit7771 Jan 2017 #29

When he started to rant against the DNC, Ashley Judd cut him off, before he could try and still_one Jan 2017 #173

I thought he was rambling at that point; Crash2Parties Jan 2017 #197

I have seen him in person lots of times. JNelson6563 Jan 2017 #206

Like Trump apologists told us not to take Trump literally ? nt delisen Jan 2017 #53

Reality is if you attack supporters you may suffer backlash. Same for everyone n/t delisen Jan 2017 #56

The Kellyanne Conway defense. lapucelle Jan 2017 #178

Far be it for one to react the same way the crowd did. joshcryer Jan 2017 #17

Spot on! eom BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #187

+1! BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #186

There are some vocal members here TDale313 Jan 2017 #6

I left this site years ago because thejoker123 Jan 2017 #15

What was your old name?...nt SidDithers Jan 2017 #37

That's why I rarely post. Scruffy1 Jan 2017 #45

I think a large part of the problem is that those lived through the Depression, bringing forth Hestia Jan 2017 #138

Stick together. JudyM Jan 2017 #49

Things haven't changed melman Jan 2017 #143

It's a shame, this site could have really thejoker123 Jan 2017 #183

The status quo is what's brought us to our current catastrophe. Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #18

No, it's not oberliner Jan 2017 #41

Yeah, and what about the House, Senate, governeships, state legislatures, media Crunchy Frog Jan 2017 #59

Good points oberliner Jan 2017 #63

I think Thomas Franks critiques are important but a post I made about this Akamai Jan 2017 #192

Amen and Hallelujah. Tatiana Jan 2017 #124

So true. mdbl Jan 2017 #181

+1000,000! Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #191

Very well said. nt StubbornThings Jan 2017 #207

The House, the Senate, the Presidency and the Courts pscot Jan 2017 #66

There are a lot of reasons for that oberliner Jan 2017 #67

Republicans added to their historic 2014 gains pscot Jan 2017 #121

Yes, indeed oberliner Jan 2017 #136

Maybe we can run Hillary again. Ligyron Jan 2017 #139

Please shoot me before that happens. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #194

The sad thing is that the Republicans have said and done things ... Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #193

As am I pscot Jan 2017 #212

Critique and bashing are two different things, lets stop the needless bashing & lift up people uponit7771 Jan 2017 #36

Sometimes the truth is painful, at least in part. PollyAnna was a Disney Akamai Jan 2017 #195

If its the whole truth so be it but 90% of the bashing is half truth which whole lie uponit7771 Jan 2017 #204

It's probably against the rules to bash the Democratic Party...there are a lot of rules TrekLuver Jan 2017 #48

Yes, the status quo has not worked. alarimer Jan 2017 #162

Hey, we were really enjoying his speech! LisaM Jan 2017 #8

He went from a speech of unity to division. Stupid and unnecessary still_one Jan 2017 #13

Yes, but we would be foolish to throw the baby out with the bath water. His "action plan" Squinch Jan 2017 #40

Where to Invade Next was terrific... bagelsforbreakfast Jan 2017 #9

Trashing? joshcryer Jan 2017 #10

This wasn't the forum to trash Democrats, the DNC, and endorse a DNC chair. still_one Jan 2017 #14

I don't see any such posts trashing him, though. joshcryer Jan 2017 #23

I have to go to the march, but for a speech that started so well, it ended on a divisive note still_one Jan 2017 #26

Here's one Mosby Jan 2017 #144

Wow, like two hours later, omg, mercy. joshcryer Jan 2017 #145

What sammythecat Jan 2017 #188

I tend to agree, although I didn't think his speech today hit the mark fishwax Jan 2017 #16

He's always been accurate and relevant and brutally Greybnk48 Jan 2017 #19

I like him too bdamomma Jan 2017 #34

I'm going to see if I can volunteer Greybnk48 Jan 2017 #102

I've noticed binary thinkers always hate on Moore. Rex Jan 2017 #20

I'm pleased he joined Planned Parenthood today. joshcryer Jan 2017 #24

He needs to be more involved that way. Rex Jan 2017 #25

Surprised he wasn't an endowment member with his disposable income. joshcryer Jan 2017 #39

He probably sees himself as a provocative film maker. Rex Jan 2017 #43

And the Moore-haters here use all the usual right wing attacks on him. QC Jan 2017 #113

I think it is jealousy. Rex Jan 2017 #116

Or serve as a tackling dummy on right wing fake news. n/t QC Jan 2017 #123

That too. nt Rex Jan 2017 #163

This. BlueWI Jan 2017 #168

Yes, in a time when we are desperate for left leaning media. I don't always agree with him. Rex Jan 2017 #169

Agreed. He's not always right. BlueWI Jan 2017 #170

He is far more of an activists than the folks I see poo-pooing on him all the time. Rex Jan 2017 #171

Completely agree. sammythecat Jan 2017 #200

I'm with just about anybody who is against this piece of Trash. But I can still differ TrekLuver Jan 2017 #22

Right on! Rex Jan 2017 #27

Did he ever take it on the chin True Dough Jan 2017 #28

A US Presidential election is a binary event. It's not a brilliant Prediction, its candidate A or stevenleser Jan 2017 #42

Moore guessed the 'why' part about Trump voters early on. Rex Jan 2017 #47

Nope, that is your opinion. There is nothing empirical to suggest that. It's still a coin toss stevenleser Jan 2017 #50

Like your opinion hold more weight than mine. Rex Jan 2017 #75

Nope, this isn't about that. You made a contention, you need to prove it. Nice try. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #78

Again you have no authority over this issue. Rex Jan 2017 #79

All DUers have the authority to ask each other for proof. That has been part of DU from early on. stevenleser Jan 2017 #82

Nope. I am right and you are wrong. Rex Jan 2017 #84

Nope, my only point was that our US presidential elections are binary so a prediction one will win stevenleser Jan 2017 #86

Wrong. Rex Jan 2017 #87

Nope, your idea was opinion, mine was fact. Two candidates, binary. End of story. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #91

Wrong. Rex Jan 2017 #93

Yep, see my #88. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #100

No, steveleser True Dough Jan 2017 #54

Nope, it's still the same odds as a coin toss. Here is what Moore did NOT predict stevenleser Jan 2017 #58

So what? True Dough Jan 2017 #92

The so what is, he predicted a coin toss. Congrats, he said heads and it was heads. stevenleser Jan 2017 #101

And he was one of the few to do it True Dough Jan 2017 #125

Or maybe they DIDN'T Nevernose Jan 2017 #164

So, in essence, you're saying it was more complicated than a coin flip. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #198

Exactly. Those were the major factors, especially the FBI/Comey interference. What you have just still_one Jan 2017 #202

that isn't how odds work fishwax Jan 2017 #69

That is why I said essentially. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #71

yeah, but it's not even close fishwax Jan 2017 #72

Statistically it absolutely is fairly close, even taking into account the worst blowout elections stevenleser Jan 2017 #74

60-40 and 50-50 aren't "basically the same odds" fishwax Jan 2017 #90

Well yeah, but nope! Rex Jan 2017 #95

Sure it is, depending on application and in this one it is, I'll break it down for you. stevenleser Jan 2017 #98

Nope. Completely wrong. Rex Jan 2017 #105

Yep, see my #88. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #107

Nope. For obvious reasons. nt Rex Jan 2017 #109

Yep, see my #88. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #110

Nope. Rex Jan 2017 #112

Yep, see my #88. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #114

Nope. Rex Jan 2017 #117

Yep, see my #88. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #118

Sorry but that post is wrong. Rex Jan 2017 #119

So close! lol RandiFan1290 Jan 2017 #208

That is great, never seen it but love the Rex Jan 2017 #215

You've demonstrated that you can successfully subtract 50 from 60 and 40 from 50 fishwax Jan 2017 #126

You cannot have a real conversation with that one. Rex Jan 2017 #77

Nope, because I ask people to prove their assertions. You can't so you don't like that. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #80

Thanks for proving my point. Rex Jan 2017 #81

Nope, thanks for proving MY point. Which you do more thoroughly with each comment. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #83

Thanks for again proving me right and you wrong. Rex Jan 2017 #85

Thanks again for proving there is nothing to Moores prediction. You keep coming up empty. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #88

Nope. Rex Jan 2017 #89

Yep, see my #88. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #99

Nope. Rex Jan 2017 #103

Yep, see my #88. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #104

Nope. Rex Jan 2017 #106

Yep, see my #88. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #108

Nope. Rex Jan 2017 #111

Fox taught him well. n/t QC Jan 2017 #122

word. KG Jan 2017 #154

Nobody was laying even odds for the fuhrer winning. Lucky Luciano Jan 2017 #73

That's why I said "essentially". nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #76

"Hey, I made you a ham sandwich" NickB79 Jan 2017 #174

No Sir, it is not. Ligyron Jan 2017 #141

No, because many people thought that Clinton had the election in the bag. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #196

+1 QC Jan 2017 #214

You don't have to agree with everything MM says to grantcart Jan 2017 #30

I would agree with that. Smart, heart in the right place, but flawed to the point that he harms stevenleser Jan 2017 #46

So... Plucketeer Jan 2017 #147

If that's your attempt to win logical fallacy of the day, it's yours. nt stevenleser Jan 2017 #150

I WIN??? Oh Boy! Plucketeer Jan 2017 #175

I thought he was doing well eleny Jan 2017 #31

Second this!! mchill Jan 2017 #33

Yes. Please stop. GoCubsGo Jan 2017 #35

Long time fan 90-percent Jan 2017 #38

don't forget Bill Maher and Lawrence O'Donnell jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 #55

Oh, I know therre's a lot on the list I forgot 90-percent Jan 2017 #62

GREAT reply.............. MyOwnPeace Jan 2017 #61

Agree, great reply. nt Quixote1818 Jan 2017 #70

At a women's march, shouldn't men mostly be listening? oberliner Jan 2017 #44

He is a strong feminist and his speech was important. We need to Hound congress and run for office. JudyM Jan 2017 #52

It's not billed as a feminist march, it's billed as a women's march oberliner Jan 2017 #64

Many of us are happy for his participation. JudyM Jan 2017 #65

I'm happy for his participation oberliner Jan 2017 #68

That's an odd attitude to have... TCJ70 Jan 2017 #115

His speech at the WMoW was terrific! The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #51

He just bashed Democrats at a rally that is supposed to bring us together. Walk away Jan 2017 #57

No, he put center-right Dems on notice that the moment demands change. slumcamper Jan 2017 #128

I have been an active Democrat for 50 years. Several members of my family work... Walk away Jan 2017 #217

. Iggo Jan 2017 #149

yeah, he's been right on heaven05 Jan 2017 #60

65 rec about a thread upset about a non-existent trashing of Moore... joshcryer Jan 2017 #94

71 Rex Jan 2017 #96

not that many, as it devolved for abit into 2 kids swatting at each other!! jodymarie aimee Jan 2017 #137

--and "the old guard of the democratic party has got to go" slumcamper Jan 2017 #120

Amen. truebluegreen Jan 2017 #127

Very well said malaise Jan 2017 #129

Well said. Barbara2423 Jan 2017 #130

Too bad...nt SidDithers Jan 2017 #132

BRAVA!!! KNR secondwind Jan 2017 #133

Some people hate anyone lillypaddle Jan 2017 #134

He has one message. Period. Blue Idaho Jan 2017 #135

the time for purity is over for now. mopinko Jan 2017 #140

Yes, and I'm tired of people trashing Bernie too. Hilary lost to vote suppression in swing states, diane in sf Jan 2017 #142

He, Keith Olbermann and Bill Maher have fired up the base of late yuiyoshida Jan 2017 #146

Me, too. Iggo Jan 2017 #148

I'm not... SaschaHM Jan 2017 #151

He's not a leader JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #152

I LOVE Michael Moore Skittles Jan 2017 #153

Me too. sammythecat Jan 2017 #216

Thank you for this! MelissaB Jan 2017 #155

They don't like him because he was the first to warn that Trump would win. alarimer Jan 2017 #161

Hear, hear! zentrum Jan 2017 #165

Me too Lotusflower70 Jan 2017 #166

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #167

I have had it with trashing {Insert Name Here} nini Jan 2017 #172

He's great except for... El Supremo Jan 2017 #176

Look I don't like or trust Michael Moore but underthematrix Jan 2017 #177

Michael Moore wants to throw the democratic leadership and half the party out of office BlueStateLib Jan 2017 #179

Well, considering we fully control only six states... SMC22307 Jan 2017 #180

A better strategy is to go after Republicans rather trying to defeat Democrtats and BlueStateLib Jan 2017 #209

Who Get's To Stay Michael Moore? otohara Jan 2017 #182

I don't always agree with him, but I always believe his heart is in the right place. spooky3 Jan 2017 #184

People been trashing him on DU since the Bush era Generic Other Jan 2017 #185

Who here was trashing Michael Moore? Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2017 #189

Suggesting that the march was the wrong time and place for saying the leaders of the Democratic betsuni Jan 2017 #199

I've loved him since I saw Roger & Me sarah FAILIN Jan 2017 #201

He does criticize our party. HassleCat Jan 2017 #203

It appears you have had it with trashing Michael Moore. AngryAmish Jan 2017 #205

Sorry, but the Democratic party does need trashing. Oneironaut Jan 2017 #210

The Left Trashing Hillary Worked Out So Well otohara Jan 2017 #213

"trashing" for what purpose? JHan Jan 2017 #218

Michael Moore Soxfan58 Jan 2017 #211

Michael Moore was prescient about how the rust belt might support Trump andym Jan 2017 #219