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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
80. That millenials have to do slave labor as "interns" is viewed as a positive thing
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 05:38 PM
Jun 2012

utterly floors me.

As for the OP:

Kindest thing my daughter ever said to me: "Mom, you told me I could do anything." Today's millenials can do everything that every other generation has done, and they will. You really have to believe in yourselves and work together.

Another thing my children have told me: "Mom, we were lucky not to have so much. We don't take anything for granted." Unfortunately, a lot of baby boomers spoiled their kids -- and the children think that life is always generous. It isn't. And it wasn't for their parents.

In fact, the OP is quite incorrect in its historical view about the baby boomers.

As one born during WWII, I remember the baby boom. Baby boomers were born to parents who had survived WWII. Many of their parents suffered from post-traumatic stress -- undiagnosed because the condition was not yet recognized. A lot of the baby boomers' parents had lost those years between 18 to 30. Their emotional development was delayed. They didn't have those lighthearted years in their late teens and early 20s. A lot of the myths about how spoiled the baby boomers were created by that WWII generation that was so bitter about the loss of their youth.

When the baby boomers were very young -- toddlers, pres-school and elementary grades, there were so many of them that there was not enough of anything they needed. There really wasn't. Not enough housing. People even lived in the quonset huts that had served as barracks during the war. Not enough teachers. Not enough classrooms. The polio epidemic that was a constant threat. Someone else mentioned cold-war hysteria. Imagine going to school and being required to hide under your desk so that you would be ready for a nuclear attack. And, especially for girls, going to college was not taken for granted. In fact, many baby boomers could not even dream of going to college. It was way beyond their means. They had to get jobs right out of high school.

Personally, I babysat from the time I was very young and even worked for one afternoon a week making deliveries of ads when I was 7 or 8 years old. Boys in the country did the work picking and planting that is now done by immigrants and illegals. Chances are pretty good that your parents worked a lot harder -- physically worked harder -- when they were in their teens and early adult years than you have ever or will ever work. That was taken for granted. It was a mark of an adult that you earned your own way.

Yes. College tuition was relatively cheaper, and tax money paid a lot of it if you went to a state school. But academic entrance requirements were stringent. You had to have a really high test score. You had to have the grades -- and this was before grade inflation.

And then, in the 1960s, it was our energy, our commitment, that changed the world or at least America. Civil rights, women's rights, rock 'n roll, political activism by young people beyond an extent previously known and, as you mention, changes in the areas of advertising and distribution.

Don't feel bad that your generation is not the target of a lot of advertising research. Trust me on this. That is a blessing. The baby boomers have been manipulated, channeled, psyched out and used from the day they were born.

I could go on and on. You have no idea what it is to type a dissertation or all your term papers in carbon copies on an old manual typewriter. We did not have computers or the internet through which to communicate with each other or our parents. The TV and newspapers told us how it was.

A few people marched in the streets and wrote letters to the editor. Those were the limited means through which we could change the world. It wasn't easy, but we older folks -- the war babies and baby boomers actually changed a lot for the better. I remember Jim Crow. I'm glad that kids today do not have to experience or watch that degree of discrimination based on skin color.

As for mistrusting the government -- that big mistake was the result of a big propaganda campaign by the 1% and their friends in the media.

I mentioned the mistakes that we war babies and boomers had to correct -- like corporal punishment for children, segregated schools, no rights for women, discrimination based on religion, ethnicity, etc. Allowing the 1% to destroy our trust in government and in working together is one of the mistakes that your generation will have to correct. That's one of your generation's challenges. I hope your generation deals with it as well as we dealt with our challenges.

One last thing. True, millennials have it tough. But you can say that of all generations. And I agree with you, Reagan was about the worst thing that any generation could do to another. (Obviously I did not vote for him.)

But thank your lucky stars that you are not having to slog your way through the swamps in Viet Nam. The baby boomers did, and many of them never made it back.

I can chalk it up to inexperience that you don't know this but each generation blames the ones upaloopa Jun 2012 #1
+1. bemildred Jun 2012 #2
This 61 year old would like to take some credit for helping end the Vietnam fiasco OffWithTheirHeads Jun 2012 #3
Just wanted to add to what you said. upaloopa Jun 2012 #5
Exactly! Don't even try to tell me that I didn't do enough! OffWithTheirHeads Jun 2012 #6
Its time for the youth to hit the streets like we did marlakay Jun 2012 #93
I do not say all Boomers are bad DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #14
And we fought ohheckyeah Jun 2012 #23
I love it when they say "We work hard", yea sitting in a climate controlled cube LiberalArkie Jun 2012 #32
+1!!!!!! Lifelong Protester Jun 2012 #97
And every generation has both the good and the bad in it. Jennicut Jun 2012 #7
I fully admit that I'm not being rational here jeff47 Jun 2012 #16
You said it well. Thank you. Paulie Jun 2012 #36
I tried to stay out of this . . . Le Taz Hot Jun 2012 #47
German-Americans and Italian-Americans *were* rounded up and put into camps. ieoeja Jun 2012 #54
Thanks for taking the time to respond. I wish you had read more carefully jeff47 Jun 2012 #61
Don't feel bad jeff47 --> daaron Jun 2012 #73
Well bless your heart . . . Le Taz Hot Jun 2012 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author GCP Jun 2012 #79
and each new generation is dumb enough to buy into it. but where is that message HiPointDem Jun 2012 #24
It's an excellent rant, true. malthaussen Jun 2012 #4
Wealth & power trump all, kiddo SoCalDem Jun 2012 #8
BRAVO! BRAVO! Raster Jun 2012 #10
This Gen-Xer would like to apologize for what that asshat said to you MattBaggins Jun 2012 #9
I'm a Gen-Xer too and completely agree with what you said. Nicely done. nt TBF Jun 2012 #11
McCullough asked for it and he got destroyed. pa28 Jun 2012 #12
Sadly, too many of you DO think you are extremely special joeglow3 Jun 2012 #13
Your post would be exactly the same 20 years ago. jeff47 Jun 2012 #18
We never were able to make money on consulting 20, 40, 60 years ago. joeglow3 Jun 2012 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Jun 2012 #27
I have seen more of a work ethic in milennials than I have in my own generation Taverner Jun 2012 #65
That millenials have to do slave labor as "interns" is viewed as a positive thing JDPriestly Jun 2012 #80
Humans are imperfect, ALL of us. turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #15
Beautiful GCP Jun 2012 #81
This Millennial is in complete agreement. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #17
do you really "expect a just and reasonable society" CleanLucre Jun 2012 #19
You cannot create a just society unless you first expect it. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #20
okay but you don't expect it CleanLucre Jun 2012 #22
No, that would make him a Boomer Scootaloo Jun 2012 #26
LOL Odin2005 Jun 2012 #30
You must be kidding. The Boomers certainly DID go out and make a fairer, more just society! whathehell Jun 2012 #37
reality CleanLucre Jun 2012 #39
Yes, I'd say so.. whathehell Jun 2012 #40
You must be delusional. Scootaloo Jun 2012 #59
Delusions are clearly your territory, dear whathehell Jun 2012 #86
A-FUCKING-MEN! Odin2005 Jun 2012 #91
Bwahahahaha! whathehell Jun 2012 #94
I am not "bigotted" against Boomers. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #100
If you say so... whathehell Jun 2012 #101
haha CleanLucre Jun 2012 #38
I think the blame is on everyone's shoulders - well, except for the milennials Taverner Jun 2012 #64
No you have to take it. Taverner Jun 2012 #63
Don't bother, he can't comprehend Scootaloo Jun 2012 #66
your post CleanLucre Jun 2012 #70
one way or another CleanLucre Jun 2012 #71
Welcome to dirty hippisum. Expect to tsuki Jun 2012 #25
great thread CleanLucre Jun 2012 #21
There were a good deal of boomers who did very well Taverner Jun 2012 #68
right CleanLucre Jun 2012 #72
Yep - which is why I am interested in the collective will Taverner Jun 2012 #83
epic CleanLucre Jun 2012 #84
We Millennials are a collectivistic generation, like the Greatest Generation. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #92
Hopes for the millennials Mponti Jun 2012 #28
The millennials gave us occupy. That alone gets puts them in a high place. Taverner Jun 2012 #69
As a Boomer I'd like to reiterate my support for every generation lunatica Jun 2012 #29
Totally unimpressive..... Uben Jun 2012 #31
Wow. This thread really proves the author's point. daaron Jun 2012 #33
"virulent"? CleanLucre Jun 2012 #42
Yeah, pretty much, "virulent". daaron Jun 2012 #44
yeah that's true CleanLucre Jun 2012 #45
Wow. Yeah, there's no patronizing in this this thread. daaron Jun 2012 #48
There may be some CleanLucre Jun 2012 #50
Wow. Double down, there Boomer Baby. daaron Jun 2012 #60
you don't know CleanLucre Jun 2012 #89
All I know is you have offered nothing except insults. daaron Jun 2012 #95
then read my posts CleanLucre Jun 2012 #96
sudo !! nt daaron Jun 2012 #98
VIRULENT!!!!11 CleanLucre Jun 2012 #99
heh heh. whathehell Jun 2012 #87
And the responses to the "virulent" posts being mainly petulant proves....? LanternWaste Jun 2012 #67
+1 CleanLucre Jun 2012 #90
Reagan DOUBLED our SS withholding so that we were PRE-PAYING SoCalDem Jun 2012 #49
lots of people don't know this!! CleanLucre Jun 2012 #51
I felt the same way 41 years ago when I was getting out of High School. Ganja Ninja Jun 2012 #35
I move to table this divisive stuff until after the election. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2012 #41
KICK NT Phhhtttt Jun 2012 #43
Don't trust anyone over 30 RobertEarl Jun 2012 #46
boomers aren't the generation that gave the world nuclear weapons BOG PERSON Jun 2012 #76
I must be an anomaly Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #52
I'm sorry, but no one had it tougher than the Boomers, hughee99 Jun 2012 #53
I think the generation that fought Hitler and survived the depression would beg to differ with you Taverner Jun 2012 #62
I wouldn't say I agree with them, hughee99 Jun 2012 #75
Well, at least Gen X is beginning to enjoy some intergenerational flack. stubtoe Jun 2012 #55
"The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune." turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #56
boo fuckin hoo datasuspect Jun 2012 #57
I had the impression he was speaking to all generations, not just the graduates. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #58
Older generations vs younger generations? Divide and conquer is working well, I'd say.... YoungDemCA Jun 2012 #74
Being special has to be earned bluestateguy Jun 2012 #77
In the early seventies the first time Greenhouse effect turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #78
To be fair, let's remember that this speech was given in Wellesley, Mass. frazzled Jun 2012 #82
Pretty whiny screed if you ask me. tritsofme Jun 2012 #85
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