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In reply to the discussion: Ironically, once you decide a person or group is "stupid," you are relieved from thinking about them [View all]ismnotwasm
(41,980 posts)84. I watched two live casts today--full of deplorables
They had set out to troll, and say some of the most bigoted, ignorant shit.
I do not have to give bigotry a chance.
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Ironically, once you decide a person or group is "stupid," you are relieved from thinking about them [View all]
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
OP
Hitler and his followers were deplorable and degenerate. As I said some were very intelligent.
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2017
#7
I do think there comes a time when one does need to de-humanize an enemy and fight.
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#18
They dehumanize me everyday. They want to ban muslims, stop and frisk me, deport my family
bravenak
Feb 2017
#110
They may very well be unreachable and action may be necessary to revoke some power from them
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#20
I agree with you but DU is a place for venting. And largely falling in line with the group.
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#5
Um, okay that was cute, but tell you what, rather than assuming your logic sucks, as the poster I
JCanete
Feb 2017
#135
thinking that there is a pronounced inferiority that people have in an area such as intelligence,
JCanete
Feb 2017
#170
no. to do something stupid is not the same as to be stupid. To err is not the same thing as to be an
JCanete
Feb 2017
#176
To call somebody stupid is to make assumptions about the context via which they came to their
JCanete
Feb 2017
#184
as I said elsewhere it has all the baggage. You can mean it and hear it one way, but people will
JCanete
Feb 2017
#188
Well, far be it from me to use a word according to its definition around here...
1965Comet
Feb 2017
#191
nonsense, you're playing games. When we have posts that say, "Yes, we are saying you are stupid!"
JCanete
Feb 2017
#194
Except that theoretically jaywalking is victimless. It certainly isn't knowingly intended to insult
JCanete
Feb 2017
#202
I'm not pretending. I clearly just dont' know what your position is. You denied that words intended
JCanete
Feb 2017
#204
What does stupid mean to you? You might have a very specific sense of its definition. It has a hell
JCanete
Feb 2017
#178
oh, we aren't having a conversation. The closest thing you came to addressing in my post was that
JCanete
Feb 2017
#180
"I won't let the fact that the Lego Batman Movie was produced by Steven Mnuchin detract from my..."
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2017
#95
So what's your red line? Obviously, racism and misogyny are not. How about
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2017
#13
I am not certain where that line would be - the line where I decide others are so deviant they need
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#39
Violence doesn't alleviate beliefs but often neither does informing of facts, debate, or dialogue.
manicraven
Feb 2017
#157
Condescension and self congratulation doesn't seem to be off limits for them either.
Squinch
Feb 2017
#103
No, "stupid" is actually more than just an insult. It's a measure for a person's intelligence.
DetlefK
Feb 2017
#15
Well, for me, you would have to go much further in order to even assert there is an objective
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#32
I think they're stupid and I also would like to see that change. Don't you think they were ripe for
BeckyDem
Feb 2017
#16
Yes, I do think they were ripe and susceptible to a bully who exploits their prejudices about
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#33
Frankly, and perhaps my standards are ridiculous, but I saw some of that in this past presidential
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#42
Never heard of it before. I looked at one review from the NYT and I am curious what you think
BeckyDem
Feb 2017
#152
I think the stuff about neurophysiology is somewhat tangential to the main point of the film.
Crunchy Frog
Feb 2017
#163
I would like to view it myself. I think you would agree there is no one decisive
BeckyDem
Feb 2017
#185
These people are darlings. We should put them on our holiay card list
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2017
#17
Exactly. And to be clear, I would not waste any time defending Trump voters.
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#34
Oh no. For instance I think about the crazy, degenerate assholes at JPR from time to time
ismnotwasm
Feb 2017
#22
I don't think I said anything of the kind. A bigot is a definable trait, "stupidity" is not.
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#44
Excellent points. The global perspective makes the problem exponentially more incendiary.
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#45
Fair enough. I am often challenged by when to use "I" "You" "One" "We" etc.
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#37
Yes. I understand as best I can - I do not have the same issues as you, obviously.
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#43
there's no penalty in American politics if one "looks small and resentful" and there's zero reason
geek tragedy
Feb 2017
#70
It's also true that the greater majority of those objecting to calling racists, racists -
Maru Kitteh
Feb 2017
#65
I agree with your observations and the sentiments you express with much of this post.
Maru Kitteh
Feb 2017
#74
Calling people deplorables is unlikely to raise their awareness of the current political situation.
jalan48
Feb 2017
#58
There are people who think certain races are stupid humans. Do you think that isn't dehumanizing? nt
JCanete
Feb 2017
#76
You can resent it all you want. What works is what matters. Saying you're not going to sit and nod
JCanete
Feb 2017
#78
Like I said, deciding to opt out of that work is entirely understandable. Also, again, nobody here
JCanete
Feb 2017
#115
Yes. Stupid and Deplorable ... exactly correct. There are no two ways about it.
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#72
and how would you do that? Even if your diagnosis of who can change and who cannot is wrong, I'm all
JCanete
Feb 2017
#82
That's about right. People can choose to do what they want to, but being aware of what
JCanete
Feb 2017
#80
yep, great post! And when you diagnose a people as this "other" you make yourself blind to the
JCanete
Feb 2017
#75
wow, that was super insightful, thanks for chiming in. Changed my mind! what the hell Brav
JCanete
Feb 2017
#113
Like there's really a shortage of lectures for the right wing bigots on DU. LOLZ
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#93
NAFTA made the Deplorable threaten to sodomize a woman in a hijab ?
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2017
#105
My opinion of engaging those ideologies is by calling them out as racists, bigots, sexists, etc.
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#159
It isn't about whether their behavior is unacceptable. It isn't about trying to get you to accept
JCanete
Feb 2017
#121
Why should a black woman like me not think it is STUPID to vote for a guy who thinks I'm lazy?
bravenak
Feb 2017
#128
For the same reason that person shouldn't think a black person who doesn't have a job is lazy.
JCanete
Feb 2017
#134
but it won't work. WE don't have the numbers to shame them out of existence. They have bubbles they
JCanete
Feb 2017
#138
As a white folk who used to be a dumbass, or far more dumbass than I am now if you like, I disagree
JCanete
Feb 2017
#140
Understood. Had another post going before reading this, but I think that even if people who don't
JCanete
Feb 2017
#144
...and as an addendum, I don't know how to reconcile that with not making you feel sold out. That
JCanete
Feb 2017
#148
The problem with this argument is that you dont' even think those people are reachable.
JCanete
Feb 2017
#142
To be clear, I am not advocating "reaching them" or anything of the sort.
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#149
I bet you're right, because it all really does seem always to come back to the same damn thing
Maru Kitteh
Feb 2017
#117
Deplorables and their apologists are the biggest safe-space, delicate, precious snowflakes
Maru Kitteh
Feb 2017
#136
Just to be clear about how I feel about racism, sexism, etc. - I copy/pasted response 159 below.
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#160
No where in the OP did it say to sympathize for those folks. And that wasn't the intent.
KittyWampus
Feb 2017
#127
It sure did judge the fuck out of us who think that deplorables are stupid as fuck
bravenak
Feb 2017
#130
I'm not in favor of eschewing labels for voting blocs. They self-identified.
WinkyDink
Feb 2017
#118
Ignoring "just words" is not a tenable strategy for people who are not white men.
Maru Kitteh
Feb 2017
#162
Do you mind copy/pasting the part of my OP that advocates "reaching out" and "understanding"?
RadiationTherapy
Feb 2017
#169