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156. We are in agreement

Thu Feb 23, 2017, 12:50 AM

Feb 2017

I've thought long and hard about whether I should've backed Sanders instead. I've decided that I should have.

I thought Hillary was more realistic and qualified.

I thought Sanders was more progressive and "unrealistic".

Hillary lost to Trump, we could discuss why, but it happened. If Hillary lost, maybe Bernie wouldn't have.

Her loss moved me more left.

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DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP DEBATE on CNN NOW. [View all] elleng Feb 2017 OP

Is there a live stream of this? Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #1

There are a few on YouTube.com --- Here is one: Equinox Moon Feb 2017 #2

Thanks!!! Tiggeroshii Feb 2017 #3

GRACIAS!! bravenak Feb 2017 #4

I think the DNC chair needs to be from a state that is Blue. Equinox Moon Feb 2017 #5

I'm not finding Ellison to be an eloquent speaker... brooklynite Feb 2017 #6

Me too. I like him bravenak Feb 2017 #7

All In For Pete Me. Feb 2017 #11

Yep. Everybody else has found a way to bother me so far bravenak Feb 2017 #111

I'm all in for Pete! leftofcool Feb 2017 #118

I posted a poll just now. I vote for Buttigeig. bravenak Feb 2017 #127

I'm also impressed by Pete's eloquence. elleng Feb 2017 #8

The real job of the chair is not to go on the Sunday shows DefenseLawyer Feb 2017 #21

I like Jehmu green's idea of ending caucuses bravenak Feb 2017 #9

I do too. She would be my first choice, although I don't think she will win. (eom) StevieM Feb 2017 #151

Harrison is good too. We have good candidates, I'm fine with whoever wins, except Ronan bravenak Feb 2017 #152

Totally agreed. I am disgusted with him. (eom) StevieM Feb 2017 #154

Sam Ronan!!! Love him! bravenak Feb 2017 #10

Nevermind. He sucks now bravenak Feb 2017 #31

I'm not a fan- isn't he the one who claimed to coin the phrase ... bettyellen Feb 2017 #32

I just changed my mind too bravenak Feb 2017 #49

My big problem with Ellison is this would be a second job to him... bettyellen Feb 2017 #57

I like Butgeig? too, but his name is too hard to say bravenak Feb 2017 #58

Is Ellison big on restricting donors immediately? I'm not sure we can afford to take the high road. bettyellen Feb 2017 #60

See, That's my problem with him bravenak Feb 2017 #62

BOOT-edge-edge JaneQPublic Feb 2017 #67

Oh thank you! bravenak Feb 2017 #69

HA! Thanks!! bettyellen Feb 2017 #70

No, it wouldn't; he's agreed to leave Congress if he gets the DNC gig. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #88

Oh wow- didn't know that! I think Jehmu is my fave but get that she isn't getting it... bettyellen Feb 2017 #96

The question about Trump's voter fraud claim was ridiculous BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #12

Was just responded to by Perez. elleng Feb 2017 #14

The framing of the question asked of the guy who basically rolled his eyes was completely inaccurate BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #15

Not liking the questions from CNN. JaneQPublic Feb 2017 #13

Poor Perez, he needs a hundred lozenges! bettyellen Feb 2017 #16

Yes. Too bad. elleng Feb 2017 #17

Why do you say that, bettyellen.. for those who aren't watching? Cha Feb 2017 #18

Extremely hoarse voice- straining on his end and mine (understanding him) bettyellen Feb 2017 #20

Awww.. I want him. Thanks! Cha Feb 2017 #23

Who's that female host? Looks constritpated! bettyellen Feb 2017 #19

Dana Bash .. coco22 Feb 2017 #22

They got a trump fan to moderate? That is grossly unfair. Cha Feb 2017 #26

She thinks we don't know... coco22 Feb 2017 #34

Oh we know the name dana bash for years of bashing President Obama Cha Feb 2017 #43

She is saying some smart ass shit now.. coco22 Feb 2017 #50

Yeah she was familiar face to me but couldn't place the name - what a negative nelly! bettyellen Feb 2017 #46

I never notice it as much.. coco22 Feb 2017 #55

Her condescension is annoying. JudyM Feb 2017 #157

I've lived in Cleveland 45 years and not once have I heard from the Democratic party... mikelewis Feb 2017 #24

Harry Reid: The DNC was "worthless" under Debbie Wasserman Schultz Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #25

Exactly! elleng Feb 2017 #27

Correct.. coco22 Feb 2017 #36

Worse than worthless. TDale313 Feb 2017 #41

+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #47

I like Buttigieg theglammistress Feb 2017 #28

Yes on both! elleng Feb 2017 #29

Like him, Ellison and Perez but think it's a FT job ... bettyellen Feb 2017 #54

Good people and I would be happy if any won. hrmjustin Feb 2017 #30

Good to hear it from you, justin, elleng Feb 2017 #33

☺ hrmjustin Feb 2017 #39

Yes, they all seem like they would be highly competent and not damaging to our brand Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #56

I'm going for Keith now bravenak Feb 2017 #35

They all agree we need new leadership that isn't wildly out of touch, and damaging to our brand Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #37

Jamie Harrison Eko Feb 2017 #38

Not liking Tom Perez metroins Feb 2017 #40

Jehmu Greene theglammistress Feb 2017 #42

Yes she is. elleng Feb 2017 #44

Thanks metroins Feb 2017 #48

I agree- hope she gets to play a larger role! bettyellen Feb 2017 #52

The African-American Woman.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2017 #76

Thanks metroins Feb 2017 #79

CNN is trying to make this debate about democratic party dysfunction MattP Feb 2017 #45

It fucking figures.. and they have to be smart enough not to fall for the Cha Feb 2017 #53

Yep! Asking about the TPP now?!? WTF? bettyellen Feb 2017 #65

I'm waiting for someone to ask a question about marijuana legalization Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #72

It doesn't seem to have people angry enough? You all need a huge protest!! bettyellen Feb 2017 #85

People aren't angry because it's winning. It did better than either party, at the polls. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #93

I get you, and wonder if they feel they already have those voters? But I think they should bettyellen Feb 2017 #116

I agree. Most Americans are pro-choice. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #121

I never had illusions that they were swayable...but now their hostility is palpable and bettyellen Feb 2017 #136

I'd love to see Gavin Newsome in the WH! southerncrone Feb 2017 #161

Tom Perez: DNC needs new, competent leadership to "up our game" Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #51

I'm for Ellison, but Perez and Greene have been good mvd Feb 2017 #59

I think perez has had a bad night metroins Feb 2017 #66

He's avoided a couple questions, but overall Perez has sounded like a good speaker to me mvd Feb 2017 #73

What do you think they should do better? metroins Feb 2017 #77

Do you mean the moderators or the candidates? mvd Feb 2017 #78

Moderators metroins Feb 2017 #83

They seemed too confrontational to me like.. mvd Feb 2017 #91

I can see that metroins Feb 2017 #108

No problem mvd Feb 2017 #134

Yep. I see that too bravenak Feb 2017 #114

I wish they could just appoint Howard Dean MrPurple Feb 2017 #61

Pete Buttigieg Eko Feb 2017 #63

Yes, has answers because has experience. elleng Feb 2017 #64

No Worries if Pete does not win on February 28th... LovingA2andMI Feb 2017 #84

Similar thought here! elleng Feb 2017 #90

Pete and Jamie for 2020!!! Eko Feb 2017 #117

why is Perez changing the subject from the TPP? Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #68

He keeps doing that. Double talk with a hoarse voice bravenak Feb 2017 #71

it's not a good look. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #74

He's officiall off my list bravenak Feb 2017 #82

I, too, have been so far impressed with the unfortunately named "buttegeig" Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #87

Good. Dean supports him and he wants a fifty state strategy. I want that too bravenak Feb 2017 #106

Then take Ellison off too. He did the same damn thing about guns just now. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #92

I walked out of the room, I missed it bravenak Feb 2017 #98

the hoarse voice is his natural voice. i know it shouldn't be important JI7 Feb 2017 #94

It messes with the impact of his words, lessens it bravenak Feb 2017 #102

Well it's dead plus a dumb time to talk about new trade agreements? bettyellen Feb 2017 #75

People argue that trade agreements have hurt us with rust belt, etc. voters Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #80

Good point- but they seem like hot potatos- safer to wait till Trump blows the issue up sky high... bettyellen Feb 2017 #89

I guess, but the DNC chair needs to be able to answer uncomfortable questions. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #99

If it was about trade agreements in general, sure ... but the TPP is dead and so felt pointless ... bettyellen Feb 2017 #105

Yeah he kind of avoided it. I wish he would have clarified more mvd Feb 2017 #97

and transparency, ffs Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #109

Keith Ellison just showed why he'll be a problem... brooklynite Feb 2017 #81

his main job isn't to be on cable news. geek tragedy Feb 2017 #101

OK Ellison lost me evading gun control UTUSN Feb 2017 #86

Perez: DNC needs a "Culture Change" Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #95

Liking Buttigieg... he's a good speaker in a quiet way. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #100

Ellison and Perez both had oppo by CNN waiting for them MattP Feb 2017 #103

Liking the air force guy metroins Feb 2017 #104

Sam Ronan KittyWampus Feb 2017 #112

Thank you metroins Feb 2017 #125

Sam is impressive.... LovingA2andMI Feb 2017 #115

Totally agree metroins Feb 2017 #124

Not me.. he's a divider. Cha Feb 2017 #120

On what topics? metroins Feb 2017 #123

On this main one.. Cha Feb 2017 #126

Looking backwards isn't helpful metroins Feb 2017 #131

It wasn't "rigged". he's not living in reality. Cha Feb 2017 #135

I agree it wasn't rigged metroins Feb 2017 #138

He actually ragged on some woman for saying "truth to power" and claiming that bettyellen Feb 2017 #142

He's definitely unseasoned metroins Feb 2017 #146

He seems to be spoiling for a fight- congressman is a good role for him... bettyellen Feb 2017 #153

I agree metroins Feb 2017 #158

omg.. Truth to Power! "stealing his ideas".. Wow, glad he exposed Cha Feb 2017 #159

It was embarrassing. He also had no idea about the rules and process and flailed around ragging on bettyellen Feb 2017 #162

Even Hillary supporters would have to say she was favored mvd Feb 2017 #139

I was and am a Hillary supporter metroins Feb 2017 #141

I do agree that Hillary probably wins anyway mvd Feb 2017 #144

We are in agreement metroins Feb 2017 #156

Cool, I have enjoyed our conversation mvd Feb 2017 #167

i only saw a few minutes but i guess i like that younger guy that Dean endorsed JI7 Feb 2017 #107

Good. So do I. elleng Feb 2017 #110

His last answers were great metroins Feb 2017 #128

I beg to differ: NOT ALL OUR STATE PARTIES ARE BROKEN Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #113

Don't believe Jamie said All State Parties Are Broken....However... LovingA2andMI Feb 2017 #119

Sure, and one way to start is to ask what the Dems in those 6 states are doing right. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #122

And you lucky mofos also have vote by mail! bullwinkle428 Feb 2017 #149

Totally. And our turnout is great. Even in off years. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #155

Did you hear about Montana's plan to vote by mail as a cost-saving measure in bullwinkle428 Feb 2017 #163

The only one I intensely dislike is Sam Ronan. He would be a disaster IMO. StevieM Feb 2017 #129

that would be a disaster. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #130

I think the white woman is worse nt metroins Feb 2017 #133

Are you talking about the woman from Idaho? What did she say? (eom) StevieM Feb 2017 #147

Yes metroins Feb 2017 #160

Agreed. She shouldn't be our party Chair. (eom) StevieM Feb 2017 #164

He's divisive and not experienced enough... bettyellen Feb 2017 #143

Why can't they answer the questions without a ton of "filler" stories? JudyM Feb 2017 #132

filler gives them a chance to show who they are in their own voice KittyWampus Feb 2017 #137

Yes, but it consumes too much of their responses. And often not particularly illustrative. JudyM Feb 2017 #140

I'm inspired by all of these candidates. I think we are seeing the future of the Democratic Party southerncrone Feb 2017 #145

Very True. KittyWampus Feb 2017 #148

Yes. Thanks. This event is uplifting, imo. elleng Feb 2017 #150

I'm telling the DNC members I know that I'd support Buttigieg. brooklynite Feb 2017 #165

Very good to hear, brooklynite. elleng Feb 2017 #166

I liked him later on metroins Feb 2017 #168

Ellisons answer was awesome metroins Feb 2017 #169

Late sorry, I had it on record. I liked Buttigieg. herding cats Feb 2017 #170

Glad you caught him, cats. elleng Feb 2017 #171

For me, those are powerful endorsements. herding cats Feb 2017 #172

With you again, cats! elleng Feb 2017 #173

Oh, that's kind of funny. herding cats Feb 2017 #174

Yes let's hope! elleng Feb 2017 #175