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In reply to the discussion: Medicare for all is so much cheaper and simpler than subsidizing insurance companies [View all]pat_k
(9,313 posts)39. Who said "attack it"?
It's about admitting it could be improved -- being honest -- and making the case for improvement. Doing that provides a stronger context for exposing "their" plan as going the wrong direction. Either we fight for what we believe because we have the best proposals, or keep silent, and keep losing because we fear what "they" will do to us if we ACTUALLY advocate for what we believe.
The only message we send when we refuse to advocate for proposals that will make a real difference in people's lives is "we're too weak to actually accomplish the things we claim we care about."
I have news, they aren't gonna "go easier on us" because we keep our mouths shut about what we actually stand for.
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Medicare for all is so much cheaper and simpler than subsidizing insurance companies [View all]
ProfessorPlum
Mar 2017
OP
But if we did do that then how would the CEO's be able to get their obscene pay packages?
dhol82
Mar 2017
#1
But But But......That's........SO-SHUL-ISMMMMMM!!! (Cue Ominous Music: DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN!!!)
ChoppinBroccoli
Mar 2017
#2
The Demand For Treatment Doesn't Go Away; The Mechanism For Payment Just Changes
ChoppinBroccoli
Mar 2017
#4
well, actually a lot of single payers' costs go way down precisely because
ProfessorPlum
Mar 2017
#25
And that is the thinking that makes it impossible to EVER generate the political will.
pat_k
Mar 2017
#14
They should be out there saving the ACA...trying to do anything else plays into
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#21
We can't replace it...we must support it and improve it if given the chance...but that
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#44
Are economy is so strong we actually can afford the waste of subsidizing insurance for everyone
Johonny
Mar 2017
#16