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The Polack MSgt

(13,189 posts)
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 12:19 PM Mar 2017

I'm seeing a bunch of posts and articles about "Hillbillies" & other rural whites... [View all]

More than I care to and way more than I ever thought I would. I am not here to bash them, hell I am them. Maybe we should understand what motivated this group to rally round a racist incompetent fuck. Ok maybe we should.

Just remember that no amount of "understanding" can absolve them - They fucking poured arsenic in the water because they assumed only "other people"would have to drink it. Can't remember who said empathy not sympathy, but that sounds right. So let me chew your ear for a minute...

I was raised in coal country and I live in corn country now.

As a teen/young adult I watched amazed as Reagan got away with putting a black face on government services and demonizing labor unions.

He did it to tap into the hatred and distrust bubbling under the surface of my neighbors and cousins. And it worked.

I was dumbfounded when almost overnight mill workers and miners abandoned the party that did more to raise their standard of living than any republican ever even tried to do.

Because of Cadillac driving welfare queens. Atheists. Mexicans. And the ace in the hole since forever - Dems will take your guns. Yes that is a big deal. A very big deal.

You can take all your arguments and shove them because if the government doesn't trust us - the God fearing patriots in (fill in the blank West Virginia Kentucky Missouri Pennsylvania wherever) then we can't trust them. Your logic and statistics do not make a dent and never will.

We grew up with guns. We all own some, and all 35 years of pushing for gun control has accomplished is now instead of a deer rifle a 22 a shotgun and maybe a 38 revolver my cousins have multiple pistols and AR and AK rifles as well.

For my family deer season was really harvest season. Between the uncles (and one Aunt), cousins, my dad and I - we filled several freezers with meat that we ate through out the year. Gun control was an immediate hackle raiser with all of us.

I won't down play the racism though... It's racist as fuck in the Appalachians and 45 tapped into that vein even harder than Reagan

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Point taken but come on cilla4progress Mar 2017 #1
They don't see that. And we have allowed the gop to muddy those waters dembotoz Mar 2017 #5
But we've just had 8 years of a Democratic administration that proved that all the fears of Squinch Mar 2017 #59
nothing will dembotoz Mar 2017 #62
You can't prove a negative and I can tell you the Op is correct...they REALLY thought HRC was going LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #7
Yep, I've known plenty of conservatives who bekkilyn Mar 2017 #10
They thought HRC was the devil in human skin and had been running America in secret for 40 years Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #26
But *even* *more* than all that, it's the guns. This isn't because I agree with it either... LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #36
A lot of Democrats do not understand the gun issue at all. Adrahil Mar 2017 #40
+1 damn million... NT The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #57
Where are all the references to 'hillbillies' on DU? leftstreet Mar 2017 #2
Not DU specific, Wash. Post and NYT plus Newsweek Vanity Fair etc. The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #15
The "assault rifle ban" made AR type rifles more popular than they would have been otherwise... PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #3
This Calculating Mar 2017 #24
I am then too NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #4
I am perfectly capable of judging people on an individual basis ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #6
Yes - exactly The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #16
K & R. (nt) MarvinGardens Mar 2017 #8
How do you explain how well Jesse Jackson did in Appalachia during his campaigns? nikibatts Mar 2017 #9
1988 is not 2016 ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #12
Rush just started broadcasting in 1988 salin Mar 2017 #14
The populations have changed drastically since then Bradical79 Mar 2017 #13
He ran as an outsider willing to shake up the system The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #19
Jesse Jackson showed up. hollowdweller Mar 2017 #38
They're impossible to win over Bradical79 Mar 2017 #11
I'm a gun owner workinclasszero Mar 2017 #17
I'm not trying to excuse them - Just tried to use a calmer tone of voice The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #20
First, maybe we should just stop calling them "hillbillies" and the like. alarimer Mar 2017 #18
And here's another Hillbilly post! retread Mar 2017 #21
Still awesome The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #22
I live in WV...and I can't wait to leave. a la izquierda Mar 2017 #23
I cannot imagine how it looks to someone The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #25
I've lived all over the US... a la izquierda Mar 2017 #44
Where at? hollowdweller Mar 2017 #39
Morgantown, which I do actually like. a la izquierda Mar 2017 #43
How 'bout them 'EERS? The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #58
You don't realize it, I'm sure, but the same fear tactics worked on you re. gun control. kcr Mar 2017 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author appleannie1943 Mar 2017 #33
I am a gun owner MFM008 Mar 2017 #28
Meat is murder - So I've been told. Hunters know what harvesting meat entails The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #30
All the grocery stores in the world don't mean squat Revanchist Mar 2017 #31
I have never killed a deer but do understand why the herd has to be culled each year. appleannie1943 Mar 2017 #34
See, this makes no sense to me. kcr Mar 2017 #35
Why buy at the store Go Vols Mar 2017 #45
That's certainly how I grew up... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #51
"I eat my pets" Go Vols Mar 2017 #55
My fav!!! Go down there for the limited releases... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #56
I have lived in a rural setting since 1969. I am anything but a hillbilly. I'm a liberal. appleannie1943 Mar 2017 #29
If you didn't vote for the Cheeto Chancre, The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #32
Question is how can we keep these deplorables from voting next time. ileus Mar 2017 #37
No it will not take the issue away - I'm hoping that was sarcasm The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #41
Many of these references come from the new well-known book "Hillbilly Elegy" by JD Vance wishstar Mar 2017 #42
I have this book but haven't read it yet. JD Vance is a right winger m-lekktor Mar 2017 #60
You want the reason they voted for Trump? They are racist, too. Nt adigal Mar 2017 #46
+100,000,000 /nt tonedevil Mar 2017 #48
Yes they are. +1million The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #52
dems need to clearly, unequivocally identify themselves as the party of GOOD jobs for the 99%; TheFrenchRazor Mar 2017 #47
I live, and grew up in, a county that Trump got over 70% in Abu Pepe Mar 2017 #49
I'm a liberal in a cornfield, too. Comatose Sphagetti Mar 2017 #50
This is a great post. Please make it an OP. nt The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #53
Quite typical of rural Trumpland dalton99a Mar 2017 #54
I really like your OP, my own thoughts steve2470 Mar 2017 #61
Those coal miners are good people Generic Other Mar 2017 #63
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