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In reply to the discussion: So, who has read SHATTERED yet? [View all]The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,947 posts)97. I am most emphatically not a right-winger and I bought it.
More accurately, I downloaded it. I wanted to find out what a couple of authors with access to a lot of people who actually worked on the campaign had to say about it. Some of it is negative; some of it is positive. I am quite capable of making up my own mind about the relative value of the book, thank you very much; but I can't do that unless I actually read it. The fact that it doesn't have a good ending is irrelevant to me because I'm interested in the inner workings of a major political campaign. That doesn't make me a right-winger either.
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The only way this will be resolved is if people lose their alerting and jury privileges.
demmiblue
Apr 2017
#89
This thread is a perfect example of the weird thought policing that this place has devolved into.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2017
#93
The hardcover version is the number 1 bestseller on amazon. I bought the kindle version.
m-lekktor
Apr 2017
#9
"Are the Comey or Putin effects discussed in any depth?" - Chapter 19 is titled "Comey". n/t
PoliticAverse
Apr 2017
#109
The Shelby County vs. Holder decision had no impact on WI - WI was never a pre-clearance state
Midwestern Democrat
Apr 2017
#27
the "failure" of a candidate who won nearly three million more votes is kind of an absurdity
MichMary
Apr 2017
#62
Except such a thing would make an excellent topic for, say, a thesis paper. A Campaign Postmortem,
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2017
#129
"It seems like it's mostly right wingers who are buying this." - Not surprising...
PoliticAverse
Apr 2017
#19
"2nd highest number of votes in history" - 3rd. Obama got more votes in 2008 and 2012. n/t
PoliticAverse
Apr 2017
#35
And it would matter if we elected Presidents by popular vote. Since we don't it still is a failure.
PoliticAverse
Apr 2017
#39
It actually matters here because of the margins and the number of votes not counted
Vesper
Apr 2017
#117
So when he's impeached for his clear Russian ties, will it be incomplete again?
Vesper
Apr 2017
#119
I reject the idea that the buck stops anywhere other than the candidate and the party.
ZX86
Apr 2017
#49
I reject the notion that the factors mentioned do not exist. That is simply not reality.
Vesper
Apr 2017
#53
Well, we had this legislation called the Voting Rights Act that spelled that out.
Vesper
Apr 2017
#124
Where did I say that? You seemed to be rather confused about who actually enforces
Vesper
Apr 2017
#132
Yeah, that doesn't answer the question, it just proves you adamantly refuse to understand
Vesper
Apr 2017
#135
So when election observers say there was outright fraud in an election that threw the vote
stevenleser
Apr 2017
#100
If? First off everyone agrees that the Russians tried. It is still being investigated
stevenleser
Apr 2017
#103
Book excerpts are like movie trailers, they show you the explosive parts but not the substance. n/t
PoliticAverse
Apr 2017
#42
I feel like I have a pretty strong grasp of the function of book reviews, thanks.
Starry Messenger
Apr 2017
#60
Yes, but Trump got the White House. Gore got more votes too, and Bush got us into Iraq
Tom Rinaldo
Apr 2017
#41
From the few excerpts I read, they are pretty accurate as to what happened in Michigan.
demmiblue
Apr 2017
#40
I'll probably give this one a read. But I'm more interested in the upcoming book
PatsFan87
Apr 2017
#50
"biggest vote count landslide in decades" - it wasn't even bigger than Obama's defeat of Romney
PoliticAverse
Apr 2017
#66
I'll read it right after I watch a replay of the Titans losing the Super Bowl
redstateblues
Apr 2017
#63
"the media said the email investigation was reopened, which was a LIE" - It was distressing
PoliticAverse
Apr 2017
#110
That doesn't make it any less of a lie, nor does it absolve they media of their
still_one
Apr 2017
#112
Yeah, or maybe there's an inversely proportional relationship between the outrage around it
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2017
#128