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Kentonio

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80. I'm not defending him on this. I hate the party's willingness to sell out our principles.

Reply to emulatorloo (Reply #75)

Tue Apr 25, 2017, 10:47 AM

Apr 2017

That doesn't make this endless flood of anti-Bernie threads any more reasonable though.

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Will We Abandon Womens Rights in the Name of Progressive Politics? [View all] ehrnst Apr 2017 OP

No compromise on women's rights shenmue Apr 2017 #1

I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY. Raster Apr 2017 #28

No compromise BadgerMom Apr 2017 #51

+1000!!!!!! hamsterjill Apr 2017 #33

Were the first 3 threads you posted about this in the last 24 hours not adequate? Kentonio Apr 2017 #2

No. fun n serious Apr 2017 #4

I was unaware there was a limit. At least on posts concerning women's reproductive health care. ehrnst Apr 2017 #5

Not in the slightest. Kentonio Apr 2017 #7

I suppose that basic healthcare access for women isn't very pressing for some. ehrnst Apr 2017 #9

It's pressing to basically everyone in this party. Kentonio Apr 2017 #12

I never talked about "half the party." Perhaps you are confusing me with someone else? ehrnst Apr 2017 #13

It's telling mercuryblues Apr 2017 #34

I've noticed that. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #43

Twisting themselves into pretzles in a misguided attempt to "protect" Bernie emulatorloo Apr 2017 #64

I understand tribal thinking, and the urge to protect ehrnst Apr 2017 #120

What is with the almost religious devotion to a politician? Vesper Apr 2017 #142

Sometimes there is a tribal element to loyalty ehrnst Apr 2017 #146

Tribal I get. It's the religiosity that's mystifying. Vesper Apr 2017 #147

very telling indeed. niyad Apr 2017 #139

If you want to whinge about anti-Bernie threads... moriah Apr 2017 #24

How is talking about what Bernie said last week brer cat Apr 2017 #37

Which he didn't do. Kentonio Apr 2017 #39

Actually it is outrage at current events. ehrnst Apr 2017 #42

You are entitled to your own denial. brer cat Apr 2017 #59

Stop treating it like an f'ing game then. Kentonio Apr 2017 #66

I take it you have issues with the article? ehrnst Apr 2017 #71

Why? Kentonio Apr 2017 #78

You sound mad bro. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #89

maybe he ain't even mad though...hehehhe Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #111

Where have I heard that? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #103

But we're not the ones doing that. Vesper Apr 2017 #148

This is happening RIGHT FUCKING NOW. JTFrog Apr 2017 #67

Ah yes Kentonio Apr 2017 #73

Yet here you are as a shining example. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #76

Let me ask you a question Kentonio Apr 2017 #82

You don't have to click these threads. JTFrog Apr 2017 #84

We? You speak for the forum now do you? Kentonio Apr 2017 #86

You're gonna need a bigger boat. JTFrog Apr 2017 #87

Right over the head.... ehrnst Apr 2017 #99

He speaks for me. That makes two. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #100

You might well answer that yourself... (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #97

Do you think that anyone who points out issues with Bernie's stance on ehrnst Apr 2017 #121

Don't expect any self awareness on this. ehrnst Apr 2017 #101

Sort of like, "could you stop posting about this topic?" ehrnst Apr 2017 #96

these posts are in reference to something he said in the last week. this is NOT "refighting niyad Apr 2017 #138

Have you considered writing directly to the authors of these articles ehrnst Apr 2017 #29

They're not all writing stories for the same publication Kentonio Apr 2017 #36

Because they are being shared in one place, that makes them "different versions of the same story" ehrnst Apr 2017 #41

You've literally started 4 different threads in 24 hours that are all the same thing! Kentonio Apr 2017 #55

Duplicate threads? ehrnst Apr 2017 #58

Sorry, Democrats don't do the lockstep thing. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #75

I'm not defending him on this. I hate the party's willingness to sell out our principles. Kentonio Apr 2017 #80

yeah. I don't like the threads that dismiss the concerns of women fighting for choice either emulatorloo Apr 2017 #92

I need to do that too. Kentonio Apr 2017 #95

... emulatorloo Apr 2017 #98

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #104

Sort of like the principles that we don't contradict science or medical consensus on an issue? ehrnst Apr 2017 #102

Tough. You have tools available to you to customize your experience here. Use them. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #70

goddess forfend that something as basic, as serious, as women's rights, should get attention niyad Apr 2017 #137

How many posts did we get during the Primary telling us what YUGE feminist Bernie is? Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #150

I'm not posting any more in these threads Kentonio Apr 2017 #158

This message was self-deleted by its author Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #159

Thanks thread police. Starry Messenger Apr 2017 #161

I think we need to have this discussion on a national stage. fun n serious Apr 2017 #3

Absolutely. And what it's like in states that have placed obstructions in the way of ehrnst Apr 2017 #6

Stories like this one you posted were common fun n serious Apr 2017 #11

Even after Roe - obstacles like "parental notification/consent" destroyed lives ehrnst Apr 2017 #14

Also, fun n serious Apr 2017 #15

Kate Michelman, former president of NARAL, had to convince a board of male doctors ehrnst Apr 2017 #32

Women can have their own credit cards--isn't that enough? Orrex Apr 2017 #8

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #10

lol Cha Apr 2017 #17

yup mercuryblues Apr 2017 #40

Right... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #154

NO WAY. NO HOW. Cha Apr 2017 #16

Women's rights are progressive mcar Apr 2017 #18

Women rights are a central and key element in the Democratic Platform Gothmog Apr 2017 #19

Absolutely not! Kaye_NY Apr 2017 #20

K&R BumRushDaShow Apr 2017 #21

No ananda Apr 2017 #22

I don't believe this is true: Ligyron Apr 2017 #23

It's not accurate: TCJ70 Apr 2017 #45

That is correct, however simply requiring physicians to offer it is also medically inappropriate ehrnst Apr 2017 #57

Just say "No, thank you" and move on. TCJ70 Apr 2017 #74

Not only does it increase the cost to make it available to everyone ehrnst Apr 2017 #79

We were offered several ultrasounds when my wife was pregnant despite there being no... TCJ70 Apr 2017 #83

Were those ultrasounds to be performed in the OB's office? Or were you referred to a specialist? ehrnst Apr 2017 #91

An OB is a specialist. TCJ70 Apr 2017 #93

An OB is not a fetal ultrasound specialist ehrnst Apr 2017 #112

That would require the doctor to provide an ultrasound to all patients, which would raise the cost ehrnst Apr 2017 #46

Well it is true...and easy to look up. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #157

No, we'll do it in the name of party unity, I'm afraid. Orsino Apr 2017 #25

Apparently there aren't enough registered democrats leading that tour, or enough women included. fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #26

Yep, sausage fest. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #119

i want ALLL MEN to stay OUT of my reproductive rights!!! R AND D!!! samnsara Apr 2017 #27

Tough shit. Iggo Apr 2017 #53

K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2017 #30

Reproductive rights are non-negotiable. I don't care whether it is politically expedient in NE RelativelyJones Apr 2017 #31

Chew on this Roy Rolling Apr 2017 #35

chew on this mercuryblues Apr 2017 #44

You were nicer about it than I was going to be. Iggo Apr 2017 #49

I wonder what mercuryblues Apr 2017 #85

How easy it is to dismiss those as "social issues." (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #124

No, seriously. Will you do an OP with this answer? Everyone needs to read it. Squinch Apr 2017 #151

Abortions save lives. athena Apr 2017 #72

Including the lives of tween and teen girls ehrnst Apr 2017 #122

Contraception and abortion are different things ehrnst Apr 2017 #94

Everyone has lost their fucking minds. retrowire Apr 2017 #38

I haven't "lost my fucking mind" ... I'm very clear-headed and rational and sane. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #48

OK Bernie or Busters. retrowire Apr 2017 #50

Oh my god! Oh ... my ... fucking ... god! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #63

So the entire party's platform is still fine? retrowire Apr 2017 #65

What does that even mean? Can you elaborate? NurseJackie Apr 2017 #77

The Democratic Party retrowire Apr 2017 #88

So which rights of mine are you willing to negotiate on? NurseJackie Apr 2017 #105

God damn. retrowire Apr 2017 #107

Okay, Goodbye. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #117

LOL! ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #61

What's so funny? George II Apr 2017 #114

It's odd. Foamfollower Apr 2017 #152

They are blowing things waaaay out of proportion so they can go after Bernie. nt m-lekktor Apr 2017 #60

If Bernie would simply call abortion a health care issue instead of a "social issue" ehrnst Apr 2017 #123

Is he calling it that? retrowire Apr 2017 #125

Yes, for years ehrnst Apr 2017 #131

Thank you for this information. retrowire Apr 2017 #134

No. But he just REALLY doesn't want to be inconvenienced by them. Squinch Apr 2017 #153

You got a mouse in your pocket? Iggo Apr 2017 #47

I'll vote for a Democrat who doesn't 100% share my opinion on abortion cheapdate Apr 2017 #52

Interesting article with Facts about Mello's stand Nanjeanne Apr 2017 #54

thank you ProfessorPlum Apr 2017 #62

Hey there!! ehrnst Apr 2017 #69

I have replied to this same article above. ehrnst Apr 2017 #68

And if this discussion were about medical advocacy that would be great. Unfortunately the Mello Nanjeanne Apr 2017 #90

I beg to differ...are you aware that Mello voted and sponsored anti-choice legislation... Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #106

Got it. Evolving on issues is only allowed Nanjeanne Apr 2017 #126

If only those who hated Hillary applied that same "hey, people evolve" standard... (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #127

Well you would have to speak to those Hillary hating people. Nanjeanne Apr 2017 #129

And you'd have to speak to those Democrats that you spoke of. ehrnst Apr 2017 #133

Tell that to those who dare vote against a single symbolic amendment that ehrnst Apr 2017 #128

I don't know those people you are referring to. Are they on twitter? Nanjeanne Apr 2017 #130

Oh, they were right on DU ehrnst Apr 2017 #132

lots of people right here on DU I disagree. Particularly lately. We just disagree with Nanjeanne Apr 2017 #143

You asked where they were. I answered. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #162

Actually it's ACOG, not the AMA, and since 2012, they have stated that ehrnst Apr 2017 #118

Abandoning women's rights? get the red out Apr 2017 #56

Women's rights ARE progressive rights Volstagg Apr 2017 #81

Simple, stay out of it all together. His litmus test is economic issues KittyWampus Apr 2017 #108

agreed lovemydogs Apr 2017 #115

Feminists have the uncomfortable position ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #109

would you post this as its own OP for visibility, and so we can rec it? niyad Apr 2017 #140

Sure ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #141

Men. Perhaps not the best judge or jury on this issue. WinkyDink Apr 2017 #110

Progressives are not anti woman lovemydogs Apr 2017 #113

What is "Clintonism"?--edit, never mind. I looked it up. ismnotwasm Apr 2017 #116

I don't know how anyone could think that calling abortion a "social issue" is Progressive. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2017 #135

WOMEN'S RIGHTS ARE NON-NEGOTIABLE. PERIOD. and *** anybody who tries niyad Apr 2017 #136

as long as women let it happen, yes. nt TheFrenchRazor Apr 2017 #144

Women generally are not the ones "giving" their rights away ehrnst Apr 2017 #145

BTW, we never did ever see any taxes did we. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #149

how is a return to the 1940s a progressive vision? Fresh_Start Apr 2017 #155

+1 betsuni Apr 2017 #160

I think we are seeing a left wing version of MAGA now. ehrnst Apr 2017 #163

Keep voting for neoliberal centrists and we will lose more of our civil rights pecosbob Apr 2017 #156

Looks like our rights are "flexible" issues in the hands of some ehrnst Apr 2017 #164

I don't think so. kentuck Apr 2017 #165