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In reply to the discussion: "Bernie Sanders Has Always Sacrificed Pragmatism For Idealism, But Now Its Hurting Democrats" [View all]scipan
(2,351 posts)119. So I googled that
Here's what Bernie said:
"We have a Republican president who ran as the most unpopular candidate in the modern history of this country, Sanders said. Republicans control the House, the Senate, two-thirds of governor chairs, and in the last eight years they have picked up 900 legislative seats. Clearly the Democratic Party has got to change."
As far as the Vermont senator is concerned, the Democratic Party should become a grassroots party, a party which makes decisions from the bottom on up, a party which is more dependent on small donations than large donations. Once the party really takes up the issue of standing up to the billionaire class, then turnout will soar and Democrats will start winning again.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/04/23/bernie_sanders_says_the_model_of_the_democratic_party_is_failing.html
This is constructive criticism, not "bashing", and spot on in my opinion.
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"Bernie Sanders Has Always Sacrificed Pragmatism For Idealism, But Now Its Hurting Democrats" [View all]
Justice
Apr 2017
OP
IMO the casual sniping, as you call it, angers and affects more people than you think.
brush
Apr 2017
#35
Unfortunately, far more than 1% were attacked to the messages of hate coming from the
pnwmom
Apr 2017
#34
well that's really two entirely different issues isn't it. One thing that people like to use
JCanete
Apr 2017
#44
Hillary won almost 3 million more votes than DT. It isn't enough to have policies that the majority
pnwmom
Apr 2017
#15
Umm, I'm pretty sure that the "oligarchy" is not the least bit worried about Sanders.
DanTex
Apr 2017
#59
They like the angry speeches. Keep us at each other's throats and a certain someone hasn't...
brush
Apr 2017
#83
Well, Dear, my original post referred to the 'they funded Sanders to split the party'...
Trial_By_Fire
Apr 2017
#118
So then,why do YOU think the Russians and the GOP tried to help Sanders campaign?
bettyellen
Apr 2017
#121
First, I see you did not prove where 'they funded Sanders to split the party'...
Trial_By_Fire
Apr 2017
#123
The article cited said people noticed the Russian spambots spreading bullshit from Wiki and RT? LOL.
bettyellen
Apr 2017
#133
Exactly. How can he bring people into the Democratic party when he refuses to do that himself? n/t
pnwmom
Apr 2017
#13
He kept me in the party. I was ready to bail, but his hope and criticism of the party...
aikoaiko
Apr 2017
#18
I'm glad that happened, but you were already in the party. He has presented himself
pnwmom
Apr 2017
#37
Well for every one of 'you' there are way more who leave the party because of such criticism.
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#61
It is hard to bring people into the Democratic Party when close allies outside of it are demonized*
Tom Rinaldo
Apr 2017
#17
If you believe all that, then you shouldn't appreciate "close allies' who criticize Dems as much as
pnwmom
Apr 2017
#39
It's also hard when alleged close allies are continually demonizing the party publicly.
brush
Apr 2017
#46
They just have to open a newspaper or watch TV to hear Bernie demonize Democratic Party
Justice
Apr 2017
#107
You'll have to elaborate. The result has been, until he garnered popularity via social media
JCanete
Apr 2017
#56
First, the question is what could get through congress? Was that kind of legislation worth
JCanete
Apr 2017
#91
Well, you are naming things right off the top which as idealistic and unwilling to go for
JCanete
Apr 2017
#110
I agree, and I said so in my last post. Bernie has been as a reliable senate vote.
DanTex
Apr 2017
#142
primarying isn't talking about 3rd parties, now is it? That is working within the party, and
JCanete
Apr 2017
#143
the past election, in which we are reminded Clinton got 3 million more votes than trump, and that
JCanete
Apr 2017
#88
There were enough geen and other such voters to have changed the outcome...lets
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#89
remember that every good progressive policy we have is because of people of all progressive
JCanete
Apr 2017
#92
Sorry...I see no benefit from making people think the Democratic party sucks.
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#70
Really...you vote for a party that someone says sucks...I am sorry I don't believe that.
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#79
I never said that nor would I...I said do you think people will vote for Democrats
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#85
I never said that nor would I...I said do you think people will vote for Democrats
Demsrule86
Apr 2017
#86
Think about this. The repugs control every branch of government. They keep their criticism of...
brush
Apr 2017
#72
Did you miss the whole point? Critique all you want but keep it in-house, maybe join the party...
brush
Apr 2017
#77
Threads like this start because of frustration over a certain someone continually bashing the party
brush
Apr 2017
#136
He is an independent who votes Democratic. So, he's trying to get independents to vote D too.
yodermon
Apr 2017
#84
What is unpragmatic about championing policies the majority of the country supports?
killbotfactory
Apr 2017
#102