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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #68)

Mon May 1, 2017, 11:04 AM

106. Rant

Okay, so I just repied to Kirkwood above, but for the record, Saying that democrats have not pushed for infrastructure, how bout the American Jobs Act, is not accurate.

The rest... look, most people I know on Medicare, supplement it with other insurance. My parents probably pay close to $900 a month in insurance, and they are on Medicare. I want health care for all, but if you look at succesful healthcare, you can find other ways to accomplish that; look at Switzerland, they dont have a single payer health system, and they're doing well. I don't believe the NHS covers mental health, but I could be wrong... so yeah, while I want single payer, denying that it too won't be perfect, and will not be free, is only being truthful and honest. Also, how many people are currently employed by Health Insurers? I don't like them either, but if you are paying your rent working for these organizations, it us a huge deal to lose your job.

There is no free college, and if we do subsidize college, we either have to increase revenue or take something away. Also, post-secondary education is not the same in Denmark as it is here. At least here, if you have the grades, you have some opportunity to pursue the field you want to pursue through student loans. Is that always a good idea, heck no, but it is definitely not an option for say, students in Denmark, you want a certain skill set, you have to place well above other students to get there. College is set up differently, three years, I believe, and the graduation rates are stilll not exceptionally high. Hoe many college graduates currently work in the field to which they graduated from? I don't know, but it seems lime Forbes and Salon have articles about this every year; they never read well.

That might be a few reasons why people are not able to get this through. It is not honest to say these things will solve our economic woes. They may not work, and citing another country, where these institutions act differently, and perhaps, may not even be better than we are, is disenguine as well.

I strongly support the use of the estate tax to achieve some of this, but even so, how much of that is realistic? What kind of burden are you going to put on people paying 300-500 a month on student loans to also pay for ALL of this?

I dont know what generation you are, but the baby boomers good fortune was probably a one off, and other than recognizing that as soon as mankind created laws to protect property instead of people, it was all over, what are you gonna do? Until we get to Star Trek level, we are stuck putting our fingers in dams, and the dems have worked hard to do that, whether or not you agree with them.

I want all of these things, but I don't know if what you are describing is going to fix everything or anything for that matter. I need better answers, and a far more in depth plan, than what I saw in 2016, before I jump on ALL of this.

Both Hillary and Bernie loved NY's "free college". I note that plan does nothing for people who have to work to survive and still want to go to school. How are these people benefiting from this, and god forbid, they later lose funding for programs that help them in the long run, or face higher taxes, because then they have nothing to show for it. That said, I still think both Hillary and Bernie have fought for the working class, even if I am appalled by some of the things they have said or supported. It wouldnt be honest of me to say otherwise.

I didn't vote for the kid in sixth grade who promised cutting school days and free soda from the vending machine either. Just because the dems are not in lock step with you, doesnt mean they have been twiddling their thumbs.

Apologies in advance for my incohrrent thoughts and poor grammar. I am a working stiff, and it was a pleasure conversing with you.

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