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In reply to the discussion: Time to face facts: Assange played the left like a fiddle on TPP [View all]bettyellen
(47,209 posts)27. Campaigns are always going to try to hide strategy, so NOPE...
There are also good reasons that parts of the TPP were not available for the public to review- that's typical for trade treaties. I swear to god you'd think people had never been around the block before, all the complaints over how SOP suddenly became a huge issue, lol. Blah blah unlimited debates never happened, super delegates have, also caucuses. It's not all a conspiracy, LOL. Politicians need room to negotiate without people interfering every fucking step of the way. These demand that the whole system change in the blink of an eye are naive. It's ridiculous.
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Assange is a Russian troll who has lost all credibiliity and will eventually spend the rest of his
Demsrule86
May 2017
#46
For the US and Russia, there's no perhaps... proven empirically he's scum ... fuck Putin
uponit7771
May 2017
#60
Assange has been editing WikiShit to manipulate people for years- anyone ethical left Wiki years ago
bettyellen
May 2017
#16
Discerning readers check multiple sources instead of relying on folks who have an obvs agenda.
bettyellen
May 2017
#21
A symptom that happens to lazy thinkers who prefer anger and confusion to reality. Education helps..
bettyellen
May 2017
#24
People are wising up to shitty partisan sources... most won't admit it but they won't get away with
bettyellen
May 2017
#32
Assange used Wikileaks good reputation and ruined it. Most thinking individuals saw it while it was
bettyellen
May 2017
#38
What they support was not in the bill...it was taken out...so slave countries could participate...
Demsrule86
May 2017
#79
I'm saddened by what my google search turned up- no easy answers- what are the answers?
bettyellen
May 2017
#84
So the TPP took steps to improve workers rights but it wasn't enough and now there is nothing....
bettyellen
May 2017
#57
there were plans to improve existing human rights issues with stronger steps than last time
bettyellen
May 2017
#76
We already are competing with abused workers worldwide. We use prison labor ourselves!
bettyellen
May 2017
#82
Pulling out of TPP gives China the ability to set the tone and becomes huge dominating force
tammywammy
May 2017
#4
Yeap, Assange was a 30% truth fact 70% bold face ass'd lie type person ... the 30% truth is to ...
uponit7771
May 2017
#6
I think it is quite likely that key leaders in Congress are as tangled up with Russia
pnwmom
May 2017
#69
Pisses the hell out of me. I tried to tell everybody, but nooo, Obama was throwing the workers under
Hekate
May 2017
#22
I have watched high paying jobs move overseas for years...and those who didn't understand that the
Demsrule86
May 2017
#50
Yes, big time. The "secret negotiated" IP chapter was first leaked in May 2012 by Darrel Issa
ucrdem
May 2017
#39
and now Trump and the rest of his shitty fucked up family are making business deals with China
JI7
May 2017
#44
And selling Golden Visas for half a million dollars, monetizing the hell out of the presidency...
Hekate
May 2017
#52