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98. Maybe it's because the horrible truth is that the one thing republicans have in

Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:14 AM

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common with neo-liberals is that the power of government should be absolute when it comes to certain things. Like property rights, for instance. Neo-liberals started out with a good idea with urban revitalization. Republicans took it a step further. As long as their guys are in control of the construction companies, filtering the money to their candidates, they don't mind corrupting government to steal land from innocent homeowners.

We had a Democratic mayor who abused his power to stoke up the community in a scheme that involved fraud and conspiracy. Of course, he would never have gotten away with it if the plan wasn't supported by the city's economic development program and lawyers who had too many conflicts of interest to count.

That's why they don't like Occupy. Occupy will challenge all the short cuts they routinely take. One of them being building consensus through plutocracies.

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Why HAVE Democratic mayors been so hardline towards Occupy? [View all] Ken Burch Jul 2012 OP

I think it is FirstLight Jul 2012 #1

Corruption, greed and money money money Marrah_G Jul 2012 #2

Orders from the AG and POTUS? HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #3

That's my opinion. These tactics certainly seem to have been coordinated. byeya Jul 2012 #30

Someone(s) somewhere must not want anything to truly change. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2012 #4

They say if voting actually changed anything, it would be made illegal. Fire Walk With Me Jul 2012 #42

A mayor's job is to keep the boat from rocking. Speck Tater Jul 2012 #5

In this case, a mayor's job is not to piss off the Federal government EFerrari Jul 2012 #6

Democratic leaders don't want that kind of thing going on during an election year. nt Raine Jul 2012 #7

But they were doing it last fall, when it WASN'T an election year. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #8

Speaks for itself, really. There's no excuse any rational person can make for them. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #9

Don't know about anywhere else, but Anarchists screwed it up here. DirkGently Jul 2012 #10

They don't sound like "anarchists" to me Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #35

Anarchists are infant Libertarians. DirkGently Jul 2012 #40

Interesting explanation Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #41

Those I met both substituted "rage" for coherence. DirkGently Jul 2012 #59

No they're not. Anarchist were a vital part of the early labor movement and were deeply responsible Puregonzo1188 Jul 2012 #55

Not the ones I met at Occupy. DirkGently Jul 2012 #57

Most of these "anarchists" are plants from various LE agencies. They've been exposed numerous times Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #49

Yup, I've seen them in action Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #58

I think that's entirely possible. DirkGently Jul 2012 #61

sounds like what happened here Adenoid_Hynkel Jul 2012 #103

Los Angeles' City Council agreed to pass a resolution opposing Citizens' United. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author loyalsister Jul 2012 #12

Ken, sorry to break it to you but Dem mayors represent the interests of the 1%, not coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #13

Most every Democrat I know is viciously anti-Occupy Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2012 #14

I've certainly never met one single Democrat who was anti-Occupy - some centrist types I know are a Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #15

It isn't the issue, it is the tactics. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2012 #22

I certainly have not talked to any Democrats who feel that way and that includes Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #26

Absolutely everything I have seen and read, here and elsewhere, runs counter to everything you claim Occulus Jul 2012 #62

I'm shocked. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #16

"Viciously anti-Occupy"???? Really??? That must be because the Democratic coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #17

And the 1% who wander or drive past homeless people with total indifference Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2012 #24

News flash: who (other than you) ever said it was about turning around the 1%? See coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #31

And here I thought Reagan Democrats were a myth. n/t EFerrari Jul 2012 #19

It isn't the "Reagan Democrats" you have to worry about, Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2012 #25

The Occupiers were the only ones speaking truth to power...other than Dennis. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #28

That may be... Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2012 #33

The only real impression YOU leave with anyone is you peeing on anybody Ken Burch Jul 2012 #45

So now we're posting Republican narrative here? EFerrari Jul 2012 #32

People who STILL hate hippies and any remaining vestiges of the Sixties Ken Burch Jul 2012 #100

The only vicious anti-occupy people I've encountered are right here on DU, not in the real world. myrna minx Jul 2012 #38

Yes, one story that the media have absolutely ignored is the way Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2012 #60

Get out of the office more often, you've apparently become insulated. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #50

I think Mayors regardless of their politcal sympathies are in a peculiar political postion Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #18

A progressive ethical mayor doesn't loose the police armed with deadly weapons EFerrari Jul 2012 #20

I totally agree Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #21

The fact is, there has been very little violence in the vast majority of protests EFerrari Jul 2012 #23

I know that. But in politics perception is everything and has a lot to do with whether or not a Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #27

I think the simple answer is: It scared them. KurtNYC Jul 2012 #29

rhetorical question, right? HiPointDem Jul 2012 #34

Because it is a movement against corporate rule that is inconvenient mmonk Jul 2012 #36

Because they still have a city to run 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #37

"had their fun"? Ken Burch Jul 2012 #44

At this point yes, 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #46

It's not like you're doing anything that has any better chance of success Ken Burch Jul 2012 #47

"ONLY the Occupy folks are doing anything that matters." 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #51

OK...I'll amend it to "anything POSITIVE that matters" Ken Burch Jul 2012 #63

Some people are severely injured running with the bulls 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #67

Truthy to POWER!!! snooper2 Jul 2012 #70

Also, whether I personally am doing something better 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #53

OWS is moving on to other things as well. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #64

You see this is one of the many many conflicting notions 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #68

I'll assume that by "political action" you mean "supporting the Democratic Party". Ken Burch Jul 2012 #79

You may assume that if you wish 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #83

The Wall Street lobbyists have massive amounts of money. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #86

"It's impossible for the non-rich to successfully lobby." 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #93

Whether you are personally doing anything better DOES matter Ken Burch Jul 2012 #72

Er, no. 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #74

Not a valid analogy at all. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #75

Interesting 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #78

It's not like the only choices are "law and order" or violence. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #92

Funny how you keep editing the rules 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #97

We can assume that none of the mayors that crushed the Occupy camps Ken Burch Jul 2012 #66

They were illegally squatting 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #69

OK...I get it now...you're one of those "the law's the law and that's all that matters" types. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #71

Er, yes. The Law is the Law 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #73

You assume that the only alternative to surrendering to the law is violence. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #77

"that it never protects women" 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #80

We have never had blind justice in this country. Ken Burch Jul 2012 #82

The number of women doing time 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #84

Domestic violence rates are NOT equal Ken Burch Jul 2012 #87

This is getting off on a tangent 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #90

Er... because the Democratic Mayors are part of the bourgeoisie............. socialist_n_TN Jul 2012 #39

This isn't France and it isn't the French Revolution. randome Jul 2012 #85

how important is "order", really? Ken Burch Jul 2012 #89

If you start from the premise that this is the most perfect world possible, then order is EVERYTHING Romulox Jul 2012 #95

Some Democratic mayors aren't much different than Teapublican mayors. 99Forever Jul 2012 #43

Mayors benefit when there is order and things stay the same or improve. NCTraveler Jul 2012 #48

What exactly is "better than that?" loyalsister Jul 2012 #52

Because someone has to pay for all these protests? City budgets are bare bones these days. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #54

Because people will blame the mayor if it appears that a city has descended into disorder stevenleser Jul 2012 #56

+1000. Historic case in point: Daley and the '68 Democratic convention. closeupready Jul 2012 #94

because if there are traffic snarls or slow downs or it's hard to get into parks... WI_DEM Jul 2012 #65

I think it Meiko Jul 2012 #76

It's corporate $$$. Same as for the Republicans. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #81

because they work for the 1% too fascisthunter Jul 2012 #88

IMO Mr Dixon Jul 2012 #91

Because at the top of the party there are alot of dems who take corporate money. craigmatic Jul 2012 #96

Maybe it's because the horrible truth is that the one thing republicans have in Baitball Blogger Jul 2012 #98

Occupy, what's that? That was stupid idea from the start doc03 Jul 2012 #99

Right idea, but hindered by the "play nice" ideology n/t Scootaloo Jul 2012 #102

I guess there's just not much difference between Dem mayors and Repub mayors. nt valerief Jul 2012 #101