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66. No. They didn't confirm Garland because that decision worked for them politically
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 10:14 AM
Jun 2017

Last edited Mon Jun 26, 2017, 11:53 AM - Edit history (1)

There was no "fix in" that influenced the decision. Hell, the Repub leadership was announcing that they weren't going to consider an Obama-nominated replacement for Scalia within hours of Scalia's death in mid February 2016 -- well before it was known who the repub nominee was going to be. In fact, around that time there were polls showing Clinton trailing several of the repub contenders (and Sanders doing better than Clinton in some contests). The decision to block Garland was motivated simply by a decision to play to the repub base. If and when it there was enough of an outcry for the repubs to re-think that strategy, they would have. But it never came -- there never appeared to be an electoral downside for them blocking Garland. Essentially, Democrats were outraged, but the repub base supported it. And independents seemed not to give much of a damn.

Absolutely correct! LakeVermilion Jun 2017 #1
Know your target Roy Rolling Jun 2017 #65
YAS!! This right here. They've been treating us like their enemy and we've been reaching out to them LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #92
You got that right! we can do it Jun 2017 #2
What Russia did was an act of war. Initech Jun 2017 #3
aided and abetted. straight up. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #6
The definition is TREASON. Moostache Jun 2017 #13
"Treason doth never prosper/ What's the reason? RVN VET71 Jun 2017 #69
They knew the fix was in WAY back...by the time Obama nominated Garland. Look at Amaryllis Jun 2017 #41
Yep not fooled Jun 2017 #79
And why will they stop in 2020? They have our country, and we will never get it back. chimpymustgo Jun 2017 #82
Oh, yes not fooled Jun 2017 #85
Obvious to us...but the Dems will analyze how they need to change their message. Although Amaryllis Jun 2017 #83
Normally the response to an act of war is to declare war on the attacking country and defend oneself onenote Jun 2017 #107
This isn't *normal*, and pretending that you get to frame the narrative is fucking insane. LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #115
I'm sorry if you think I'm "fucking insane" onenote Jun 2017 #116
I said the pretense that you get to frame the narrative is fucking insane. LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #118
Okay. If we're going to split hairs, AI think the pretense that I'm framing the narrative more than onenote Jun 2017 #120
For that to happen, your post would first have to have been substantive. LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #121
Correct malaise Jun 2017 #4
You have said it since jump, and I was happy to join you...truth will out. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #7
Yes shenmue Jun 2017 #5
I have been saying this since McTURDle first refused... 3catwoman3 Jun 2017 #8
you really think that crowd of 200+ brain damaged idiots (and their staff) have kept this secret? Amishman Jun 2017 #34
So agree with all of the above. Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #9
So why didn't Obama make a Recess appt when MM said Alice11111 Jun 2017 #48
We should ask him that. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2017 #57
It would have been a futile gesture. See article from Washington Post. Fla Dem Jun 2017 #63
The Constitution was written for very different times. No way they could have foreseen anthing Amaryllis Jun 2017 #95
Yes, agree. They did expect it would be reinterpreted Alice11111 Jun 2017 #103
His REAL name Scarsdale Jun 2017 #55
Yes he seems to be a fake. Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #75
Also busted for smuggling drugs ghostsinthemachine Jun 2017 #102
But what the Hey, Wellstone ruled Jun 2017 #109
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT Skittles Jun 2017 #10
Amen! dem in texas Jun 2017 #11
Disagree they are clueless. THey are complicit. Big difference. Amaryllis Jun 2017 #42
!!! I was about to say that...not clueless, complicit Alice11111 Jun 2017 #49
They are also not very concerned at the unpopular shit LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #12
Yup. That's why I believe... davekriss Jun 2017 #17
This is exactly right. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #39
How do we do that? Amaryllis Jun 2017 #43
"Breaking Through Power" has guidelines & success stories re: David v. Goliath battles against power diva77 Jun 2017 #52
Thanks for posting that LiberalLovinLug Jun 2017 #94
Just put the book on hold at the library. Good sign that they have it. I am in a very blue city.... Amaryllis Jun 2017 #113
I have been convinced of that for a long time. Don't say it to many people because it's too Amaryllis Jun 2017 #45
I wish establishment Dems were as worried about the fix when it was just the GOP doing it... yurbud Jun 2017 #14
Illegitimate election. SHRED Jun 2017 #15
This was a non-violent coup by a foriegn, hostile nation. Crash2Parties Jun 2017 #16
Absolutely. broadcaster90210 Jun 2017 #18
check out my post above (#52) diva77 Jun 2017 #53
The shot is up and it is good! rurallib Jun 2017 #19
We need to repeat, over and over: "ALL elections must be with paper ballots and MUST be audited" JoeOtterbein Jun 2017 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Jun 2017 #21
So what do we do because its gonna get worse? INdemo Jun 2017 #22
Yeah, and why didn't they act before the election?? triron Jun 2017 #26
MY theory: Trump was in debt unto death to Russia, from decades ago. Then the light bulb WinkyDink Jun 2017 #23
I said it a year ago...glad u see it too...so obvious. Alice11111 Jun 2017 #50
GMTA! Maybe Trump is a wee worried, too, given his latest "tactic" to Tweet "Don't blame ME! Blame WinkyDink Jun 2017 #67
Yeah, don't Repubs ever see through that? Alice11111 Jun 2017 #101
You are probably right. Eom pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #24
Methinks you got it right! triron Jun 2017 #25
Yep. They knew it. That act was unprecedented. They KNEW. Tatiana Jun 2017 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Jun 2017 #28
We aren't on a jury; we're on a Discussion Board. WinkyDink Jun 2017 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Jun 2017 #31
Right *bleep*ing on, damnit! VOX Jun 2017 #30
Yes, POS Chump, and his SCOTUS nominee were shoved down our collective throat! MoonRiver Jun 2017 #32
I believe the fix has been in for years with or without Russian interference diva77 Jun 2017 #33
Got that right. KAtherine Harris FL 2000, Ken Blackwell 2004. Kris Kobach , KS SOS created Amaryllis Jun 2017 #44
And yet, Obama loyalsister Jun 2017 #61
Totally agree. Russia is just a distraction. harun Jun 2017 #93
Gawd I hope yoou are wrong. vkkv Jun 2017 #35
I don't think so burrowowl Jun 2017 #36
I agree. It took me a long time to reach this conclusion... First Speaker Jun 2017 #37
I fear that you may be right on this Gothmog Jun 2017 #38
Thought this same thing. old guy Jun 2017 #40
Two heads??? Amaryllis Jun 2017 #46
They look at me as if I had sprouted a second head, as if I'm very strange. old guy Jun 2017 #70
How many countries are we at war with? onenote Jun 2017 #47
I agree UCmeNdc Jun 2017 #51
"Do your job" was too weak a response bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #54
Both McConnell and Ryan knew Botany Jun 2017 #56
absolutely. They committed TREASON. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #58
"they" have been flipping races for years and this time it was w/Russian help Botany Jun 2017 #59
I think so. This should be shouted from the rooftops. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #60
I often wondered why the RNC lapucelle Jun 2017 #62
Good point Botany Jun 2017 #74
I'm so glad I clicked your link. lapucelle Jun 2017 #108
Treason IronLionZion Jun 2017 #64
Treason: Article III, Section 3 of the US Constitution onenote Jun 2017 #68
Constitution: IronLionZion Jun 2017 #71
Yep. That's the language onenote Jun 2017 #76
No. They didn't confirm Garland because that decision worked for them politically onenote Jun 2017 #66
EXACTLY. No matter the nominee, they KNEW they would win and be replacing Scalia. LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #89
No, they didn't need to KNOW a repub would win onenote Jun 2017 #90
They didn't NEED to know, because they fucking ALREADY knew LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #91
And why do you think they'd have done anything different had they not already known? onenote Jun 2017 #97
Oh, nothing, just every year that any POTUS has appointed a Justice, but please proceed. LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #104
You're being awfully generous in your view of repubs. onenote Jun 2017 #106
And you're awfully generous with your ability to normalize them and this. LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #110
Its not a question of me normalizing it. As I said, it's how they roll. onenote Jun 2017 #111
Ok then. Thanks. LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #112
So now what? broadcaster90210 Jun 2017 #72
Maybe. Maybe not. aikoaiko Jun 2017 #73
This is treason. gademocrat7 Jun 2017 #77
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Jun 2017 #78
I've thought that from the beginning NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #80
Why does it make no sense for the repubs to have refused to confirm Garland? onenote Jun 2017 #87
Nasty said it makes no sense not to confirm him UNLESS they fully expected a Repub to win. Amaryllis Jun 2017 #96
I disagree onenote Jun 2017 #98
We are saying the same thing. THey had only to gain by not giving him a hearing. Amaryllis Jun 2017 #100
Right. But they didn't need to know how the election would turn out go get that gain. onenote Jun 2017 #105
yes indeed... defacto7 Jun 2017 #81
AND DU was taken down election day. This was NOT a coincidence. n/t chimpymustgo Jun 2017 #86
And because they knew there would be nothing we could do about it until after the worst SCOTUS BSdetect Jun 2017 #84
One could speculate moondust Jun 2017 #88
Are we a nation of laws, or are we not? Mr. Ected Jun 2017 #99
They didn't confirm Garland before the election in hopes that Trump would win. hughee99 Jun 2017 #114
Exactly right. They had nothing to lose by rolling the dice onenote Jun 2017 #117
This topic is really making the view count. Republicans along with their Russian hacker Sunlei Jun 2017 #119
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