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Towlie

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25. "The reality, however, is that it is impossible to lose weight, and that being fat is not unhealthy"
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 07:46 PM
Jul 2017

Last edited Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:40 PM - Edit history (4)

What? If you're that disconnected from reality, why aren't you a Republican?

Since you've abandoned your previous thread, apparently to run away from opposing views, I'll leave this here to make sure you see it:

(Edit: Actually, Athena didn't start that other thread, she only made several posts there. Sorry about the error.)

In the previous thread, Athena wrote:

"It is also much more dangerous to have a fluctuating weight than to have a stable weight that is 'overweight' or 'obese'"

No. It appears that losing weight and keeping it off is the healthiest thing an overweight person can do, followed by "Weight cycling" or "yo-yo dieting", which may introduce some ill effects but is still better than not losing weight at all, followed by not losing weight and simply staying overweight, which is the worst choice.

The main lesson for me was that there's a difference between weight loss and weight watching.

Weight loss is a process that has a beginning and an end. You plan how you're going to achieve weight loss and you stick to your plan until you reach your proper weight. I found that it's better to not worry about the arithmetic of how many pounds you've lost, but to concentrate on higher mathematics - the derivative (rate of change with respect to time) of your weight loss and how long it'll take to reach your planned weight at the rate you're going. Don't settle for losing some impressive-sounding number of pounds if you still weigh more than you should. You're not done yet!

Weight watching, on the other hand, never ends. It requires a total revision of the way you live and it's something you must commit to for the rest of your life, else you'll wind up in the "yo-yo dieting" category, which is synonymous with failure. You need to keep track of your weight and establish total control over it, and be able to honestly boast that you weigh what you want to weigh. The worst thing I'd want to do is reinforce the myth that weight loss is never permanent, and I don't intend to do that.

That's the philosophy that has worked for me for the last five years, and I guess I should thank Athena for her arrogant challenges to me (in the previous thread) because they'll help reinforce my determination and resolve.


Why Fat-Shaming Is Wrong. [View all] athena Jul 2017 OP
Just one minor quibble NRaleighLiberal Jul 2017 #1
Seconded, on both counts True Dough Jul 2017 #5
You didn't bother to read the links I posted, did you? athena Jul 2017 #7
I gave them a cursory read True Dough Jul 2017 #15
95% of diets fail within five years. athena Jul 2017 #17
Conventional and fad "diets" are part of the problem True Dough Jul 2017 #20
That study was halted because it showed no reduction in mortality. athena Jul 2017 #22
You're so driven to be right that you're making an enemy out of someone who isn't one True Dough Jul 2017 #27
And just because I believe long-term weight loss is achievable for many individuals True Dough Jul 2017 #29
Agreed. Snackshack Jul 2017 #31
Thank you for this. johnp3907 Jul 2017 #2
Questionable research Loki Liesmith Jul 2017 #3
I'm sorry MFM008 Jul 2017 #4
No one should be shamed into having surgery to change their weight. athena Jul 2017 #6
No one shamed me MFM008 Jul 2017 #8
OK. athena Jul 2017 #12
Thank you MFM008 Jul 2017 #23
I have dengenerative bones... LakeArenal Jul 2017 #9
My weight loss MFM008 Jul 2017 #10
Fat shaming is wrong TBA Jul 2017 #11
We all know that if significantly less calories are consumed, weight will be lost. Doodley Jul 2017 #13
And I Disagree ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #14
It sounds good in theory NobodyHere Jul 2017 #16
Is smoker shaming wrong? Is ignorance shaming wrong? Binkie The Clown Jul 2017 #18
You should read the links in my OP. athena Jul 2017 #19
Oh Hombre74 Jul 2017 #21
For years and years I tried to quit smoking. They told me it was not a choice it was an addiction. Binkie The Clown Jul 2017 #26
If being overweight were remotely as dangerous as smoking, athena Jul 2017 #36
You will find the papers that tell you what you want to hear. That's what I did as a smoker. n/t Binkie The Clown Jul 2017 #43
I gained 40 pounds in 15 years. no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #24
"The reality, however, is that it is impossible to lose weight, and that being fat is not unhealthy" Towlie Jul 2017 #25
That's not my previous thread. athena Jul 2017 #30
Sorry, I corrected the error. But you know what else is funny? Towlie Jul 2017 #33
I have not read a single link yet, but intend to Not Ruth Jul 2017 #28
I know a whole lot about this subject, AND THERE IS A LIE A STATEMENT IN OP Stuart G Jul 2017 #32
Good job, Stuart! Towlie Jul 2017 #35
3% - 5% of people are able to keep the weight off. athena Jul 2017 #41
No...it does not take "superhuman effort" to lose weight.. Stuart G Jul 2017 #44
I lost 85 pounds almost ten years ago and have not regained them. cyclonefence Jul 2017 #34
Good for you, but as you say, you didn't actually diet. athena Jul 2017 #38
Diets don't work cyclonefence Jul 2017 #42
Jesus Blue_Warrior Jul 2017 #37
Hygiene shaming ... Is that okay? NurseJackie Jul 2017 #39
Chris Christie uses "unhealthy habits" to justify sending marijuana users to prison. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #40
Fat shaming is wrong because it's ineffective TexasBushwhacker Jul 2017 #45
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