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In reply to the discussion: What have Nader, Stein and the Green's accomplished, [View all]Gothmog
(145,722 posts)44. Call attention to the fact that Nader was funded by Karl Rove
Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html
Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Naders campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the APs Laura Meckler headlined GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads. She opened: Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of, Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: Whats Al Gores real record? Nader says: Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken. Mecklers report continued: A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Naders speeches. Bushs people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.....
On July 9th, the San Francisco Chronicle headlined GOP Doners Funding Nader: Bush Supporters Give Independents Bid a Financial Lift, and reported that the Nader campaign has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party, according to an analysis of federal records. Perhaps these contributors were Ambassador Egans other friends. Mr. Egans wife was now listed among the Nader contributors. Another listed was Nijad Fares, a Houston businessman, who donated $200,000 to the Bush inaugural committee and who donated $2,000 each to the Nader effort and the Bush campaign this year. Furthermore, Ari Berman reported 7 October 2004 at the Nation, under Swift Boat Veterans for Nader, that some major right-wing funders of a Republican smear campaign against Senator John Kerrys Vietnam service contributed also $13,500 to the Nader campaign, and that the Republican Party of Michigan gathered ninety percent of Naders signatures in their state (90%!) to place Nader on the ballot so Bush could win that swing states 17 electoral votes. Clearly, the word had gone out to Bushs big contributors: Help Ralphie boy! In fact, on 15 September 2005, John DiStaso of the Manchester Union-Leader, reported that, A year ago, as the Presidential general election campaign raged in battleground state New Hampshire, consumer advocate Ralph Nader found his way onto the ballot, with the help of veteran Republican strategist David Carney and the Carney-owned Norway Hill Associates consulting firm.
It was obvious, based upon the 2000 election results, that a dollar contributed to Nader in the 2004 contest would probably be a more effective way to achieve a Bush win against Kerry in the U.S. Presidential election than were perhaps even ten dollars contributed to Bush. This was a way of peeling crucial votes off from Bushs real opponent - votes that otherwise would have gone to the Democrat. Thats why the smartest Republican money in the 2004 Presidential election was actually going to Nader, even more so than to Bush himself: these indirect Bush contributions provided by far the biggest bang for the right-wing buck.
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I meant the Greens in Canada. Elizabeth May. And Europe. No i Don't like Stein.
applegrove
Jul 2017
#4
This month, in British Columbia, a coalition New Democrat-Green government is going to be sworn in.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#61
No...when you bring eight years of Bush...nothing he said was even relevant.
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#22
Why...because of his war on one fucking car? I have no respect or admiration for Nader.
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#23
I don't give a damn what he did pre-2000...everything was wiped out with actions in elected George
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#88
He improved nothing because electing Bush wiped out any environmental improvements.
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#118
Any merit he might have had is far outweighed by the disaster his running for president as a Green
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#87
8 years of a real republican reminds even dumb people that the gop and the dems are not the same
La Lioness Priyanka
Jul 2017
#16
Had Sen. Sanders primaryed Obama as he wanted to, Pres. Obama probably would have lost with Green
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#18
I worked that election. It is my opinion that a primary opponent would have given us president
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#86
The story is that Sen Sanders wanted a primary opponent for President Obama. O'Malley brought it up.
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#85
Stein helped to keep Americans sleeping when is comes to election tampering...
NCTraveler
Jul 2017
#12
Due to Nader's stupidity, we have Citizens United and have lost a key section of voting rights act
Gothmog
Jul 2017
#15
Hopefully educate people enough that they think better of jumping into a camp that
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#20
Not only did I live thru the time, listen, process and consider; but, I also
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#26
No. I was on the phone. Now I am taking a shower so I can get my flat tire fixed.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#41
Oh, their conscience, so so pure. I'm sure little Ethan Chandler apprecietes what
lunamagica
Jul 2017
#78
We are talking about the greens. I'm really sorry you think that mentioning this child's tragedy
lunamagica
Jul 2017
#82
That would be a good question-if any significant group of folks here were defending Nader and Stein.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#56
I'm very confused as to how anyone who considers themself to be left leaning,
NYResister
Jul 2017
#70
Just to clarify, you are claiming that the Democrats who voted for Bush were liberals? n/t
BzaDem
Jul 2017
#120
One observation. Nader and Stein are both multi-millionaires whose way of life will not be
still_one
Jul 2017
#73