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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Faces Feisty Democratic Challenger [View all]phleshdef
(11,936 posts)133. You argue like a bratty teenager
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This guy was unknown up until about a week or two ago. Why would anyone bother...
George II
Jul 2017
#116
I'll l bet it took a whole hour to put his public postings together. Must be the Russians.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#119
But they were "screen shots" of posts that were deleted. When did he delete them?
George II
Jul 2017
#120
Apparently someone was interested in this guy before the world knew who he was.
George II
Jul 2017
#122
I would say a state actor - with access to Google level search capabilities.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#126
A Magic Eight Ball? I wasn't aware you could use those to find posts on Facebook.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#217
So to recap: his posts are still there and no one used the Tardis to retrieve them.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#223
Now they're claiming the links can't be found, I just checked and they all still work for me.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#412
Jon Svitavsky's bigoted posts are still up on facebook, it only took a minute to find them.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#202
You're welcome, I did some more digging and found all of the ones in that file.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#258
Right? Unfortunately that's the least of Jon's worries if he decides to run.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#285
Exactly! And the silly game of isolating one word (TRIED, omg) from someone's post and then
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#299
If they won't believe direct links to his Facebook page I wonder how they'll try to dismiss this
Rob H.
Jul 2017
#506
I see that some are now "parsing words" and coming up with their own definition of "doxing".
George II
Jul 2017
#531
How DARE you point out the obvious and criticize a candidate who uses bigoted slurs?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#530
That's the end of the debate: Svitavsky ADMITTED TO POSTING THOSE SLURS
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#533
They will also try to change the subject by talking about Bernie. BUT BERNIE THIS AND THAT...
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#539
It is, isn't it? Now that he's admitted to using racist slurs... crickets
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#543
"We don't know for sure that he said that, do we?" was the response last weekend.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#546
So the claim is that because the article is three days old it's irrelevant?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#520
STOP DOXXXXXING HIM BY POSTING ARTICLES AND FACTZ. No DOX PARTY for you!
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#537
Someone edited the definition of the word 'dox' to exclude the word "private"
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#517
How disappointing. (Sigh.) I'll keep my fingers crossed that a viable Democrat challenges the (I).
NurseJackie
Jul 2017
#18
I was saddened to hear the news about Al Giordano. But, I remain hopeful...
NurseJackie
Jul 2017
#85
I'm no expert of Facebook, but I believe he can remove entries from his timeline
citood
Jul 2017
#69
I don't consider calling out bigotry "personal destruction". Of course ymmv.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#227
Lol! Nice try but anyone can simply click the link and read the racial slur for themselves.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#239
So you still support a Dem who uses racial and homophic slurs because he's NOT Bernie.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#247
Well then you should definitely use some racial slurs against African American republicans on DU.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#240
Wait, are you *actually* going to ignore the fact that your candidate used those slurs recently?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#251
You don't need to, those are his posts and no amount of denial is going to make them go away.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#254
You can characterize pointing out his bigotry as "attacking" him all you like
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#294
That's hilarious. I doubt the press will put this much effort into reporting on bogus
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#303
Those links look mighty suspicious, they certainly don't look like Facebook pages....
George II
Jul 2017
#309
Thanks! Yes, that explains a lot. None of the links maligning him so far have appeared
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#310
Even after multiple people successfully viewed the links they're still focused on your use of caps.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#459
Indeed. Seems some people think vetting a candidate is the same thing as doxxing them
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#488
It's odd that people keep ignoring Raw Story's article about Svitavsky's transphobic slur.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#476
They do look nervous. But this guy is known to lose track of his machine:
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#495
They look like the USUAL SUSPECTS but there's another evildoer who can time travel:
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#497
It's odd that people don't know that their tactics to harass people are simply that.
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#478
If Bernie had used those slurs I'm fairly certain the reaction would be quite different.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#374
In order for their theory to work the fake account would've had to have been created years ago.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#386
Exactly, they are so obvious. Looks like some troll forgot to hide this remnant--
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#402
The links are still there so whether or not someone posted in caps is irrelevant. It's still true.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#425
So it's the mobile interface that's confusing them? That could explain it.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#451
Yeah he's definitely out there. He likes to use profanity and call names as well.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#456
Shrug, so he's the Dem nominee, Bernie's the I nominee - they split the vote and we get another R
Arazi
Jul 2017
#31
So in 1948, you'd have backed Strom Thurmond over Henry Wallace in a 2 way race?
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#100
Sure, once again you throw something out and when you get pushback, it's "I never said that".
George II
Jul 2017
#194
No hypothetical mention of of Millard Fillmore or Franklin Pierce in a race against Paul Wellstone?
LanternWaste
Jul 2017
#145
That comparison wouldn't work. Neither Fillmore nor Pierce were independents.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#308
It is only because you'll support a racist and homophobic candidate because he's got a (D) on it
Heaven Sent
Jul 2017
#124
Who once had a D next to his name and still sucked balls. He was still the same guy. Having the D
JCanete
Jul 2017
#161
comforting to pretend rejection of one Democratic candidate is equivalent to rejection of all
LanternWaste
Jul 2017
#148
that is the saddest thing i've ever read. That isn't true at all. Like having a D next to your name
JCanete
Jul 2017
#140
such a thoughtful reply. Thanks. This will totally win over others to your thinking too, since
JCanete
Jul 2017
#149
hey, give a shot...deconstruct the thing I just said if you think there's something fishy
JCanete
Jul 2017
#157
Obviously there are constraints here to "deconstructing" your purist requirements
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#162
I am only talking here about the vapid rhetoric of not even looking past the name into the details
JCanete
Jul 2017
#165
Unfortunately, I am at a loss as to the meaning of this post. what is an imaginary barrier? nt
JCanete
Jul 2017
#171
Even one who claims the 'theory of mental illness' is a 'ridiculous idea'
Cal Carpenter
Jul 2017
#28
If Bernie were to run in the Democratic primary, I predict he would get over the 85% of the vote
karynnj
Jul 2017
#107
that is hardly assuming the worse. That's just shittalking, and bashing fellow democrats here who do
JCanete
Jul 2017
#151
Well, I DO live in VT and if he runs on the Democratic line in the primary, I will write in Bernie
karynnj
Jul 2017
#246
He may be progressive but he is not a Democrat...he has an "I" next to his name.
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#322
Who gives a shit whether or not the person is trying to ensure that pride in the party is warranted.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#142
Bernie will crush this nut case. And the Democratic party will stay behind Bernie.
phleshdef
Jul 2017
#16
So if Trump ran as a Democrat with the same message he has now, you would support him?
phleshdef
Jul 2017
#25
You resort to ad hominem attacks when your argument has been shut down with logic.
Foamfollower
Jul 2017
#134
I would say that I am shocked that people would support a candidate like that, but I'm not.
demmiblue
Jul 2017
#32
There are, occasionally, total assholes who are better than the Dem candidate
Nevernose
Jul 2017
#106
Attacking Democrats is also bad news. Just getting those talking points out defending
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#41
Discussion of a Democratic primary inevitably involves attacking some candidate(s).
Jim Lane
Jul 2017
#45
He also supported primarying Debbie Wasserman Schultz out of personal spite.
yallerdawg
Jul 2017
#159
Someone clearly used the Tardis to go back in time and make those posts.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#361
He runs in the Vermont Democratic primaries when the Party doesn't clear the field for him...
yallerdawg
Jul 2017
#76
Is the guy wearing the Pats sweatshirt and floral print shorts the challenger?
Zing Zing Zingbah
Jul 2017
#74
People who want a Democratic challenge to Bernie could do a lot better than this guy.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#77
Bernie didn't want Trump to win, and he did all he could to help HRC carry those states.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#97
Those Bernie voters that refused to vote for Hillary in the general election almost certainly
karynnj
Jul 2017
#110
I will never support a bigot and homophobe! I hope Bernie crushes this man. Nt
LostOne4Ever
Jul 2017
#94
I'm totally ok with this, since Bernie tried to primary a very popular Obama
Blue_Tires
Jul 2017
#125
His words are still on the internet. Looks like he said it on the Thom Hartmann
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#146
He did at one point say that he thought Obama should have a primary challenger, and then
JCanete
Jul 2017
#154
to primary Obama, which he said he didn't want to do after suggesting it. No, the poster
JCanete
Jul 2017
#160
again..he did not try to do this. That is obvious. That was the accusation. Fucking A.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#166
the way you are arguing this, it is clear you know that you are grasping at straws. Did he
JCanete
Jul 2017
#173
energizing progressives is akin to primarying? That's a stretch. Progressives should be energized.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#177
fuck it...that's your story and you are clearly sticking to it. Why i have no idea, but have at it.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#179
Whatever. Senator Sanders should not have any issues defeating this "Democrat"
Heaven Sent
Jul 2017
#213
If all you have is some thought exp on a radio show, then there's really no excuse...
aikoaiko
Jul 2017
#197
Absent any edit to this incoherent post which I think is acknowledging Sanders didn't actually..
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#228
Get back to me when you have some supporting documentation Bernie "tried to primary" Obama.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#186
Bernie Sanders was posting on DU in 2012? I didn't know that. I guess you got me.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#189
Bernie wished some unnamed person would primary Obama is a more accurate statement
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#201
Please do keep up. And read the initial post that started this subthread.
Hassin Bin Sober
Jul 2017
#207
Bernie wished some unnamed person would primary Obama is a more accurate statement
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#260
Prove my "version"? It is the same as Bernie's version. "I think it would be a good idea if ...
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#280
Speaking of reflecting poorly, why must you constantly misrepresent other people's posts?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#284
Do you understand that my post was in part to push back on "Bernie Tried to Primary Obama"?
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#286
Lol! More strawmen about how you're being unfairly maligned? Seriously?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#288
I've read the transcript and listened to the show, Bernie didn't try to primary Obama.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#222
I merely posted a link...showing the subject was discussed that maybe a primary opponent for
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#267
As we've seen in the last few days, lack of success doesn't mean lack of intent.
George II
Jul 2017
#277
Exactly. I don't understand how Pres. Obama is to blame for the 'right' tilt of the agenda when the
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#278
yep, when you see it in black and white, nothing there at all suggests he TRIED to primary Obama.
JCanete
Jul 2017
#295
somebody asked and he said he thought it was a good idea. What does musing mean to you? The crux
JCanete
Jul 2017
#297
You make it sound like a casual conversation. He said it during one of his regular appearances....
George II
Jul 2017
#312
I know. Let it be what he said and not some ridiculous overexageration. Can we do that?
JCanete
Jul 2017
#313
He said he was trying to identify and encourage ''progressives' to run...I would consider Pres.
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#324
That's an entirely different issue. I understand frustrations of liberals. I understand their
JCanete
Jul 2017
#327
In polls, when people are presented with progressive ideas, my understanding is that they are
JCanete
Jul 2017
#405
So yes, we are in better shape when we elect Democrats, at least while they are in office,
JCanete
Jul 2017
#407
If you say so. I disagree...saying you want a primary for a sitting president on a
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#398
I see that his %-age of voting with Democrats dropped a little a couple of weeks ago...
George II
Jul 2017
#321
What is misleading about it? As I've pointed out elsewhere, it's not like it was a close vote or...
George II
Jul 2017
#352
I also took it exactly as you stated it -- his percentages went down because of his
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#380
well you already knew Sander's reasons, and acted like he had none. You already knew that
JCanete
Jul 2017
#406
No sir, I didn't know about Sanders' reasons, and I never acted like he had none.....
George II
Jul 2017
#408
why is it highly questionable? Because everybody else went with it? I"m not saying he was right in
JCanete
Jul 2017
#409
who's point is that, except for your own straw-man? I think primaries are fine. I don't like them
JCanete
Jul 2017
#328
the evidence you've brought to my attention is not particularly convincing. okay...so there was a
JCanete
Jul 2017
#335
"Straw man"? What is "straw manish" about what I said? That's a catch all that people....
George II
Jul 2017
#355
So they didn't actually misinterpret the poll. Glad you cleared that up, George.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#418
You're going around in circles now and changing the subject (might you say "moving the goalposts"?)
George II
Jul 2017
#429
No, it's not moving the goalposts or changing the subject to ask you to explain what you meant.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#430
No, I don't think so. When asked you said "some here" misinterpreted the results.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#432
I never said anyone misinterpreted the poll. Do you have the quote where I did?
George II
Jul 2017
#433
Yes, right here: "I disagree with the interpretation of the poll by some here on DU"
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#434
Once again, I never said anyone misinterpreted the poll. Glad we cleared that up.
George II
Jul 2017
#436
Except you haven't cleared anything up. Why did you bring up interpretation at all?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#440
Is this a court of law? No, it's a discussion forum. Read my posts, they speak for themselves.
George II
Jul 2017
#441
Check with the person with whom I went around the block several times, thanks.
George II
Jul 2017
#421
That person is right here and I have no idea what you're talking about.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#422
"Most popular US Senator in their home state".."75 per cent approval rating"...
WoonTars
Jul 2017
#427
That is a much better metric, it makes sense to compare popularity polls. Apples to apples.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#464
I don't either. Why would anyone support a candidate who's clearly racist and homophobic?
beam me up scottie
Jul 2017
#442
I support almost anything that prevents Bernie from spending time causing problems with the party.
stevenleser
Jul 2017
#435
The other thing Svitavsky can accomplish is forcing Sanders in advance to say whether or not
stevenleser
Jul 2017
#438
And also very handy to show which democrats will support any piece of slime...
WoonTars
Jul 2017
#472
Like not having the campaign in states in the mid-west after getting the nomination?
WoonTars
Jul 2017
#471
Has nothing to do with Bernie having a Democratic challenger in the present. nt
stevenleser
Jul 2017
#550
Nope and I have stated publicly here and elsewhere that I do not endorse him
stevenleser
Jul 2017
#552