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Honeycombe8

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54. No one has identified the "working class" as affluent, that I've heard.
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jul 2017

The middle class person or small family grosses about $53,000 a year. So the working class make less than that, but above the poverty level.

Maybe you're thinking of blue collar or union workers. They can make good money, but they are a little different from white collar in that they sweat for a living and do grunt jobs.

The Dem. Party used to be the middle class, mainly. The Dem Party backed unions, OSHA regulations, safety at work, the mortgage deduction, etc., all to raise the standard of living for average Americans. SOME of this group started voting for Republicans along the way for a variety of reasons. My thinking is it was because of social issues and trade agreements, but I don't know that for sure. The Dem. Party quit focusing on the things they focused on in prior years, and focused more on social issues. But that doesn't mean they all changed parties.

These blue collar workers are not the Trump base, but are some of them, IMO.

The Dem Party can remind them which party is responsible for unions, the 40 hr work week, safety at work, and all the things we take for granted. Also remind them of the Dem Party's support of women issues...some young women don't realize how different their lives would be if Dems hadn't pushed for equal rights.

K&R ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #1
I'll give ya a rec on that point!! boston bean Jul 2017 #2
FUCK THE REPUBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! eom a kennedy Jul 2017 #3
There are some things I don;t stick my hand in!!! Left-over Jul 2017 #32
They have totally gone sour ...and destructive. yuiyoshida Jul 2017 #41
When did it look like Clinton would win? What I remember is that the margin in Kentucky early Hoyt Jul 2017 #4
No, it wasn't the margin in Kentucky Chitown Kev Jul 2017 #10
It was obvious from early votes that things weren't going well. Kentucky had a Dem governor, Hoyt Jul 2017 #12
The margin in Ky was not suppose to be close standingtall Jul 2017 #17
The cities weren't good where she should have done well. I was sick by 8 Eastern. Hoyt Jul 2017 #19
I was watching in the California time zone, and as the evening wore on ... Hekate Jul 2017 #25
Yeah, I seem to remember that too... mountain grammy Jul 2017 #18
I would have been too had I been in Colorado. And we couldn't even get on DU. Hoyt Jul 2017 #20
I drove three miles on a dark mountain road stoned as shit mountain grammy Jul 2017 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Not Ruth Jul 2017 #28
Yep, that's when I decided to go ahead and have a third glass of wine ... KPN Jul 2017 #31
I recall there being about 13 polls. HRC was leading in 12 of them. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #49
I get it, but I felt the loss early in places where I expected her to win big. Hate it, but Hoyt Jul 2017 #53
It wouldn't have been that hard to hack individual districts. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #55
I'm So Sick of Hearing About Reaching Out to rethugs Leith Jul 2017 #5
This!!! calimary Jul 2017 #42
We won't win by pandering to Trump supporters. herding cats Jul 2017 #6
Exactly! EffieBlack Jul 2017 #7
The problem is some people are not too bright. herding cats Jul 2017 #8
I couldn't agree with you more. Boomerproud Jul 2017 #11
I feel you. herding cats Jul 2017 #13
I live in a blue state, but my part of the state murielm99 Jul 2017 #16
You truly understand, herding cats. brer cat Jul 2017 #27
"We can't reach people who can't accept they're lost... Kind of Blue Jul 2017 #43
Righteous rant! It's just amazing that we're expected to see the battle flag of Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #48
"...we're expected to see the battle flag of Kind of Blue Jul 2017 #56
White men most endangered group? Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #58
I'm sorry to hear about your grandmom's beliefs Kind of Blue Jul 2017 #61
I reckon most humans have deep-seated beliefs that don't Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2017 #62
Pointing out they take Alwaysna Jul 2017 #46
Exactly rppper Jul 2017 #34
I love every sentence that you wrote renate Jul 2017 #35
Fuck every last one of them. I have zero fucks to give about any of them. onecaliberal Jul 2017 #9
Cabinet picks Thew Jul 2017 #14
I'm expecting this will lead to cilla4progress Jul 2017 #15
No, what did she write? BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #21
Yes, cilla4progress Jul 2017 #23
Right you are, Effie, at least as regards the pundits and bobbleheads Hekate Jul 2017 #24
I think some are operating under the delusion BainsBane Jul 2017 #26
No one has identified the "working class" as affluent, that I've heard. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #54
We can reach all we want, we won't change the minds of Trump voters. The only thing that will wake Vinca Jul 2017 #29
Have to admit, I am getting pretty frigging tired of Trump voters I know. KPN Jul 2017 #30
On The Five on FoXNews on election night I remember them announcing just as the show ended that..... spixxen Jul 2017 #33
On election night, I don't recall anyone saying it looked hughee99 Jul 2017 #36
Whatever EffieBlack Jul 2017 #37
I'm suggesting you set up a premise where you claimed hughee99 Jul 2017 #39
Oh for fucks sake do you just make shit up and post it? Egnever Jul 2017 #38
Anyone who STILL doesn't think the election was stolen NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #40
My standard response to those who declare that we must "reach out" is "fuck 'em". n/t Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #44
Mine too. 47of74 Jul 2017 #47
That made spew! "Branch Trumpividians"? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #60
Can I Use One of These to "Reach Out"? AndyTiedye Jul 2017 #52
It's probably much safer that way. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2017 #59
I thought we weren't going to rehash the past. We'd better get ready for the future. YOHABLO Jul 2017 #45
I'll reach out to them..... SergeStorms Jul 2017 #50
Who's Trump? Throck Jul 2017 #51
The Democratic Party has been "reaching out" to the American right for my entire life misanthrope Jul 2017 #57
Yeah, I've been ignoring that bullshit talking point since 2008... Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #63
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