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In reply to the discussion: If it's out of bounds to keep attacking Hillary, it's out of bounds to keep attacking Bernie. [View all]Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)180. We have not learned from last election and since I am not allowed to discuss it here
we will lose again in 2018.
Not that I could fix it all, but I do have this little speech, goes kinda like this
2 parties
not 3
any vote for 3rd party or non vote is a vote for fascism
the end
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If it's out of bounds to keep attacking Hillary, it's out of bounds to keep attacking Bernie. [View all]
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
OP
Then Sanders has got to quit insulting us. Why do you consistently leave that part of the
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#120
Neither Sanders nor Hillary is the point. Can't we just be past both of them as personalities?
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#123
I know you have been told this a number of times, but I will repeat it again in case you truly
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#127
Both parties are the same. The Democratic Party does nothing for middle class.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#173
If you are honestly stating you have never heard Sanders state this, then why should I bother.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#179
Google, Sanders: Both parties are the same. You want the info, it is there.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#189
I am not going to be sucked into fighting the primary and getting hides. The info is there.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#197
Then it failed miserably as I and many others have pointed out to Ken Burch. Eom
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#203
And I would say that this is NOT an attack but a concern to get things right
LiberalLovinLug
Jul 2017
#187
"GOP shenanigans" Shenanigans? Voter theft/oppression/suppression are merely, Shenanigans? Eom
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#190
So, someone else googled for you and look, the response is: So? Proving my point, why bother.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#191
We have not learned from last election and since I am not allowed to discuss it here
Eliot Rosewater
Jul 2017
#180
I really did not think people that defined themselves as progressive would encourage splitting up
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#192
I cannot give them an out any more than the Trump supporters. Facts are there.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#200
Depends on what you mean. If supporters of either one are pushing the idea of a 2020 candidacy,
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#2
We need to work harder on turnout and fighting Russian interference, but those aren't enough.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#124
"Equally, we can't win as a Clinton supporters-only party." Yes. We can. Eom
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#128
Yes, we can Ken Burch. Again, ignoring all that happened in this election to then
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#131
I'm not ignoring the Russian thing...but we can't win in the future if we assume that that
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#143
And again. The Democratic Party is all avout economic justice to the point that Sanders himself
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#164
Democratic party weak on economic justice. Right there. Incorrect, insulting, and fighting the
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#165
Every one of your posts is you refighting the primary, as you insist you aren't. Re-writing history,
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#133
This- he needs to be working toward a Dem majority for 2018- it's crucial to our democracy.
bettyellen
Jul 2017
#4
Head of Bernie's superpac says they will endorse Republicans, Libertarians and Greens.
emulatorloo
Jul 2017
#208
Two party system is all we have and all we will ever have...there are disgreements in the big
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#184
Q. "Why is Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton a topic of conversation on DU right now?"
DBoon
Jul 2017
#26
DNC allies incensed by Clinton criticism BY CRISTINA MARCOS - 06/02/17 06:00 AM EDT
Omaha Steve
Jul 2017
#25
Thank-you so much for facts. Like the Russia/Trump vs Clinton/Ukraine. Not the same animal.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#71
Yes. Sincerely, I too would like to know why he can insult and attack not only the
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#106
Thank-you so much for the clarification for those of us that did not do the background research
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#100
One doesn't have to do with the other. The RNC can still be clearly superior in
R B Garr
Jul 2017
#111
Do you see anything in that post that said Hillary was wrong in complaining?
Omaha Steve
Jul 2017
#229
That is just illogical thinking. Bernie is still a seating US Senator taking potshots at the Dems
Fla Dem
Jul 2017
#13
Criticism, esp w recommendations for unifying party, is one thing. Attack not so good.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jul 2017
#17
He is the enemy ...the worst president of my lifetime and the most corrupt...traitor.
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#20
Clinton is not creating todays headline, and making todays statement that might be addressed
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#28
Hillary is probably done politically, BS, is still out there being rather decisive.
liberal N proud
Jul 2017
#31
He is a Senator...and that is that... I don't want him to run in 20 but he can be a good Senator...
Demsrule86
Jul 2017
#57
Hey Hunter, this is an awesome post. I may not stand exactly with you on the political slide.
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#73
I haven't been keeping track.Do Bernie supporters still scoff at the notion of Russian interference?
librechik
Jul 2017
#38
Some can just not let things rest - and this after a tome earlier this week that we need to unify.
George II
Jul 2017
#41
Ugh. I thought all of this would be over so I un-trashed the words Bernie and Sanders.
Squinch
Jul 2017
#42
Also telling that the trashing of these two words eliminates the infighting posts.
Squinch
Jul 2017
#61
Some people prefer to block specific users, but the word-trash feature seems like it's...
NurseJackie
Jul 2017
#64
Valid points, but never ever any suggestions on how to accomplish those things. It's always...
George II
Jul 2017
#48
I look forward to the day when DUers attack Republicans instead of each other
IronLionZion
Jul 2017
#50
bush misused the AUMF. In principle it wasn't a bad idea, that's why so many...
George II
Jul 2017
#86
I'm not looking to complain about any Democrat, liberal or progressive. I am getting excited about
StevieM
Jul 2017
#82
I have to disagree. I do not think the Democratic Party can afford many more
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#107
Sanders is in front of the camera, today. We are addressing his statements from today!
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#134
Per the rules of this site I will not attack members of the Democratic Party
GulfCoast66
Jul 2017
#113
Careful. Your Bernie fixation is showing. Not everything revolves around the Independent from VT.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2017
#114
Anyone who attacks the party should expect to face criticism from party supporters. n/t
pnwmom
Jul 2017
#137
I wish I had written this post. Your logic is sound and we need all the support we can get.
Akamai
Jul 2017
#139
When I see people actually stop doing the former, I'll stop doing the latter...
Blue_Tires
Jul 2017
#153
People should react to what they're doing and saying now. If Sanders been disappointing -
bettyellen
Jul 2017
#182
Dems have no problem with Koch Brothers. Seriously? That is offensive, as a Democrat and
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#201
Exactly. The OP questions why as Democrats we have to constantly challenge the lies. Eom
pirateshipdude
Jul 2017
#219
He's critiquing it, bluntly. He's calling for change in the party, not its abolition.
Ken Burch
Jul 2017
#233
Well, if either does something totally screwed up, I would certainly say something like "whoa this
kerry-is-my-prez
Jul 2017
#223