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Maven

(10,533 posts) Mon Jul 24, 2017, 03:10 PM Jul 2017

Please stop saying that discussion about Hillary is "irrelevant" because she is not in power [View all]

Or because her campaign is in the past. Inasmuch as people keep accepting lies about her, and saying "Hillary is irrelevant" to avoid having to face the truth about those lies, they are completely missing the point. Hillary was the target of a coordinated smear campaign by the Republicans, the Russians, and too many on the left. She was the further target of media pundits who were obsessed with creating false equivalencies between her and an actual criminal and would-be dictator. The truth was completely lost as many voters were led to believe that HILLARY WAS WORSE THAN TRUMP. Think about how ludicrous that is, and yet many believed it. Some still do!

Unless we put a stop to the propaganda machine that caused that to happen, we are sunk. It will keep happening. They are already starting with Kamala Harris and other potential 2020 Democratic frontrunners. The discussion about Hillary and the way her character was assassinated with fake news and media bias is relevant and we should be talking about it.

We cannot simply "move forward" from this without examining how it happened and holding people and organizations responsible.

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Please stop saying that discussion about Hillary is "irrelevant" because she is not in power [View all] Maven Jul 2017 OP

I agree. And accepting RW framing on this is the last thing Schumer should be doing. bettyellen Jul 2017 #1

He's not. Look at who are deliberately misinterpreting his statement Hortensis Jul 2017 #17

He knows exactly how they'll quote him. Dumb move. It's not an accident. bettyellen Jul 2017 #35

You can change future propaganda, but not past leftstreet Jul 2017 #2

You're right, we can't change the past, but we must learn from it. Maven Jul 2017 #5

My wife voted for Trump because of the decades of attacks against Hillary Kaleva Jul 2017 #9

That's sad leftstreet Jul 2017 #11

k and r niyad Jul 2017 #3

On another thread, I stated the criticism of Hillary is relevant KitSileya Jul 2017 #4

Yes, women will be targeted much more viciously than men Maven Jul 2017 #8

Wouldn't it be rich if Hillary challenged Schumer for his Senate seat. R B Garr Jul 2017 #15

I would suggest that she was only partially qualified... Baconator Jul 2017 #18

She was not more qualified than either John Kerry or Al Gore when they ran and they were white males karynnj Jul 2017 #24

Worse than trump? Egnever Jul 2017 #6

Very little about her life has been "irrelevant". Weekend Warrior Jul 2017 #7

Hillary was a victim.... kentuck Jul 2017 #10

well said- i agree samnsara Jul 2017 #27

It is not just Hillary, if you look at any right leaning media or search a name on twitter, karynnj Jul 2017 #31

she can defend herself publicly if she wants to. other wise dems need to move along nt msongs Jul 2017 #12

Thank you! We will never forget. And we won't be silenced lunamagica Jul 2017 #13

no we wont! samnsara Jul 2017 #28

agree barbtries Jul 2017 #14

Great points! R B Garr Jul 2017 #16

I for one have always believed her to be innocent n/t apkhgp Jul 2017 #19

I completely agree - excellent post. aquamarina Jul 2017 #20

Actually, I have little problem with a slight mod of that title gilbert sullivan Jul 2017 #21

she is every bit as relevant as Al Gore and Mitt Romney nt geek tragedy Jul 2017 #22

I posted a non-rec of the other one. I will make a point of recing yours. NBachers Jul 2017 #23

K & f'ing R! mcar Jul 2017 #25

Since I am forbidden to talk about last year, and we will repeat the mistake if we dont talk about Eliot Rosewater Jul 2017 #26

People here need to support the Democratic Party, and Senator Schumer is a leader of that party. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #29

We have a homegrown RW media machine and a hostile foreign intelligence service coordinating Maven Jul 2017 #33

We all voted for her. She lost anyway. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #38

I just love how a certain faction likes to say, "She's Satan! Now stop talking about her because Squinch Jul 2017 #30

Yes, this galls me. So many want to use Hillary hate as common ground Maven Jul 2017 #34

And not for nothing but that woman has endured four decades of unmitigated shit Squinch Jul 2017 #37

No kidding. MrsCoffee Jul 2017 #36

And not being in power does not confer irrelevance NotASurfer Jul 2017 #32